ratchet Posted August 11, 2006 CID Share Posted August 11, 2006 clean/optimize or does that happen every time I reboot? I'm confused on this issue! Thank You! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
php Posted August 11, 2006 CID Share Posted August 11, 2006 Your RAM is cleared every time you reboot. I'm not a big fan of RAM optimizers myself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark06 Posted August 11, 2006 CID Share Posted August 11, 2006 are u experixing lag when u change screens/windows????? or when opening programs if not then your ram is fine and dont worry about it most of those raw tweekers are nothing but scams al they do is make more virtual ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratchet Posted August 11, 2006 Author CID Share Posted August 11, 2006 Everything works fine! I just wanted an explanation. Thanks All! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted August 11, 2006 CID Share Posted August 11, 2006 al they do is make more virtual ram For us simple folks, would you give a simple explanation of what that means? "more virtual ram" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostmaster Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 virtual ram = virtual memory or the swap file..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amc11890 Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 with virtual ram the computer looks at ram for areas that have not been used yet and copys it to a hard disk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 Thanks amc11890. So they do help a little, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amc11890 Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 Thanks amc11890. So they do help a little, then. yeah but in ur case u have 2gb of ram so u may not even need a swap file Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 The reason I was wondering, was I D/L'd the FreeRAM XP PRO and was at first thinking it was helping. After a few days I had began to doubt it and was thinking maybe I just hit a good spot when I first tried it. Been considering dropping it. As I feel it does as much slow down as it gains in my case. Or maybe nothing in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amc11890 Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 The reason I was wondering, was I D/L'd the FreeRAM XP PRO and was at first thinking it was helping. After a few days I had began to doubt it and was thinking maybe I just hit a good spot when I first tried it. Been considering dropping it. As I feel it does as much slow down as it gains in my case. Or maybe nothing in the first place. basically all it does is free ram like the title says. Its just frees up unused ram and allows for more to be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amc11890 Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 Thanks again. no problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholla Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 This link explains what the RAM optimizers do in general. http://www.winmag.com/columns/explorer/2000/12.htm Even if you don't use it to free RAM.You can set it to do almost nothing.It still gives you a toolbar icon that shows either Ram used or RAM unused which ever you like.I need to verify this but I think they compress data in your Ram some way as well as use virtual . I could slow you down tommie with the amoumt of RAM you have.So if you like the icon just set it to do nothing but that. From what I read you need your virtual memory & page file(swap file) no matter how much RAM you have.XP even needs it more than a 9x OS.Read this on virtual memory in XP: What is Virtual Memory? A program instruction on an Intel 386 or later CPU can address up to 4GB of memory, using its full 32 bits. This is normally far more than the RAM of the machine. (The 32nd exponent of 2 is exactly 4,294,967,296, or 4 GB. 32 binary digits allow the representation of 4,294,967,296 numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 So for one it would not be a bad idea to expand my RAM to its full "4G RAM" capabilities. But I also guess the settings of the FreeRAM XP Pro are beyond my knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholla Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 That much RAM might be interesting.I don't remberanyone matching the RAM to the amount the CPU can handle.Probably not necessary. I have a version of free Ram XP Pro What settings do you want to use? Or do you want to just shut most of it off & use the tool tray icon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 I am not sure, this is a different field for me. Any ideas what would be the difference. Right now it is registering 78% RAM free, @ (1506MB) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepnklown Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 Ram optimizers have no effect, and might reduce performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark06 Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 leave it to cholla to go all out on us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholla Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 leave it to cholla to go all out on us I have ben known to explain id detail. Ram optimizers have no effect, and might reduce performance. peepnklown ;That's not entirly correct.The link explained it pretty well if you could overlook some of the weird spelling. For an OS with limited RAM they do help.If you have a lot of RAM they probably slow down performance. tommie ;You probably need a long answer.For the settings to turn it off but still use it to monitor use .DO this; In Settings .Under the Memory tab clear all of the auto free boxes. Then check "Don't run if CPU use is above" set to 1%.Since CPU will always be above 1% that should stop it from auto clearing. Then if you think you might want to clear some RAM manually.Dot the circle "try to free" & put in the amount of RAM you want it to try to free. What this does is frees this much RAM when you double click your tray icon. If you think it still might auto free you can also check the "Promt before automatically freeing" You can always R click the tray icon & go to "try to free" It will let you choose a percentage of RAM to try to free. Under the program tab clear all boxes in"Memory related program options" this will keep it from displaying a report.This annoyed me. Under the "other "tab I set left double click to "Automaticall free RAM & Right double click to "No effect" & Normal for CPU . Under sound /shortcuts I set all shortcuts to "none" & unchecked sound. In the "Display "tab check what you want it to display when you R click the tray icon & select restore.On this screen :Dot Autofree & slide the bar all the way left.Make sure to uncheck "Display freeing results report when done with memory options." Then to close it you select minimize & to system tray.If you just close it it will stop the program. This should pretty much let you display the amount of free RAM in your system tray & manually clear RAM.& look at the use in the restore box when you want too. Then tommie try to see if you can use all your RAM.I doubt with 2G you ever run out any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 Then tommie try to see if you can use all your RAM.I doubt with 2G you ever run out any way. Just curious, how do you know if ran out of RAM? Secondly, isn't there a normal windows way to clear out your RAM? Without a program. Disk cleanup or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholla Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 tommie;using free Ram XP Pro in the other tab in settings "Tray icon displays" set to show "Megabytes of free RAM" When this shows zero you have used all your RAM. I'm not sure exactly what XP has but in ME . Start/Programs/Accessories/System Tools/System Information once there under system summary (the first screen on ME) It shows "Total Physical Memory" & "Avalible Physical Memory" The second one is the amount of RAM free it's the same with it if it is zero you have used all RAM.At that point it uses virtual memory.Which is the page file on your HD. So you might have to look for a simular area of XP to find it. For Windows clearing RAM I think the only way is restart.But I would be glad to know too if there is another way with windows alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 Thanks cholla, and I would not worry about others downing the info posted, as people always do that that do not realize what is up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholla Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 Tommie ;I wasn't worried Dark06 was just joking about me.At least that's how I took it. & peepnklown is seldom has a positive attitude about anything.If he read the link he would have seen that's what it said for the most part. I will boil it down to it's essence. RAM optimizers fool your OS by telling it that it is loading a program of the size that you want to free.This puts that amount in virtual memory.Then it doesn't load a program. Some of them do defrag RAM sort of like Windows defrags the whole OS.Aranging it so it find the information in it faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark06 Posted August 12, 2006 CID Share Posted August 12, 2006 i wasnt downing his info i was just commenting that he allways goes all out finding articles and qoutes to back him up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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