tommie gorman Posted October 4, 2007 CID Share Posted October 4, 2007 Great e-mail. Its got my VOTE!!! THIS IS THE WAY LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULD WORK. NOT ONE OF THE BAD GUYS IN THESE SCENES HAS TO HIRE A "LAWYER"!!!!!!!!!! WOW! it fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdawnaz Posted October 4, 2007 CID Share Posted October 4, 2007 bang bang ur dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWO Posted October 4, 2007 CID Share Posted October 4, 2007 Totally " DEAD ON " Got my vote !!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdawnaz Posted October 4, 2007 CID Share Posted October 4, 2007 oh r we voting?? where's the booth ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWO Posted October 4, 2007 CID Share Posted October 4, 2007 Sounds good to me if one would be set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted October 4, 2007 Author CID Share Posted October 4, 2007 Just curious, how do you change it to a poll. Like is this justice? Yes or no. (YES) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinlay Posted October 4, 2007 CID Share Posted October 4, 2007 they all deserved it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gourame Posted October 4, 2007 CID Share Posted October 4, 2007 cool he never gets to wear his wig back on that last scene. Yes or no. (YES) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdawnaz Posted October 4, 2007 CID Share Posted October 4, 2007 poll added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted October 4, 2007 CID Share Posted October 4, 2007 thank god i have never been in a similar position. but i have received training in the military as to how to guard bases in peacetime. and some of that instruction included scenarios in which i as the guar on scene would ave had to make the life and death decision on wether or not to use deadly force. oh, sure, you can say you were just following orders. but i am sur that a lot of the officers pictured in the clip amd others in similar situations have to go through a lot of counseling to stop the nightmares. to this day i am not sure wether or not i would have pulled the trigger in certain situations. to save a comrades' life, probably. but just to protect valuable equipment from sabotage? probably would have fallen back on training and done it, but the thought of the dreams afterwards... anyway. justice is served by a fair trial. what happened in the clips was maybe just, but it wasn't really justice dealt out according to the laws. it was justice dealt out accidentally, forced on the officers in the situation to protect innocent lives by taking the lives of those that threaten it. i'm stopping here. maybe go on later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted October 4, 2007 Author CID Share Posted October 4, 2007 That is one opinion Reso. In LAW you must mean present USA law. See law is something made up by the people. In other countries that was law. So it really depends on where you are at that moment. Some countries simply do not play. Those weren't simple thieves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted October 4, 2007 CID Share Posted October 4, 2007 i know they were not simple thieves. but even in those countries (looks like south america to me) there is such a thing as due process. and while the steps that lead to the use of deadly force may be different they are a mere last resort. my sequence was: - stop, bundeswehr - stop bundeswehr or i will use deadly force. - stop bundeswehr or i will use deadly force. warning shot, repeat if confronting group or crowd - open fire. that scenario gave me a lot to think about. any good person that is forced to act like those officers did will have a guilty conscience for the rest of their lives. they will be asking themselves if they did the right thing again and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted October 4, 2007 Author CID Share Posted October 4, 2007 Lets see, hostage maybe dies. OR Kill the worthless piece of crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdawnaz Posted October 4, 2007 CID Share Posted October 4, 2007 good points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted October 4, 2007 CID Share Posted October 4, 2007 tommie. i'm not saying you aren't right. but put yourself in the cops boots. do you want to have to live with yourself of making a life and death call? do you want to pull the trigger and have to defend it before the most critical and aggressive court in the world, your own conscience? today i saw a serviceman in fatigues in the store. i walked up to him, shook his hand and said thank you. he immediately understood. his neutral face turned into a big smile and he said you're welcome. i can not tell you how good that felt. why am i putting this in this thread? because there are those among us that stand on the front lines, be it on a faraway shore or in our neighborhoods, making sure that we have the freedom to express ourselves. the freedom to rant about the government, the RIAA, the MPAA and whatever else happens to put a burr up our asses. honor those men and women, show them your appreciation. and think about what their dreams may hold in store for them if they have to make the most final of decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted October 4, 2007 Author CID Share Posted October 4, 2007 Your points are well taken. Thanks bro for passing it on. I get to see them everytime I go to the VA hospital. They are wonderful guys too. I just feel it would not be to hard for me if in the same boots. I mean they were removing trash. Not much else. And yes, I hope they deal well with it also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdawnaz Posted October 4, 2007 CID Share Posted October 4, 2007 human life is never trash...and we have no idea what the circumstances were...only what we saw...i saw civil justice... whatever the circumstances were and besides whether they deserved it or not...they were somebody's baby...not trash...not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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