Blunted Posted July 24, 2005 CID Share Posted July 24, 2005 you have to be under 1000 feet from the central office and can get 3 mb up and 25 mb down. just wondered cause i would get it if i lived closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffman1234 Posted August 23, 2005 CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 I am getting VDSL from BELL.ca THis is what im getting: www.bell.ca/condotv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunted Posted August 23, 2005 Author CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 the link doesnt work for me can you post another 1 or the speeds and price of some packages. i'd get it if i could but i'm a just a bit too far to get it. sucks cause i would have had 3,000/25,000 speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffman1234 Posted August 23, 2005 CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 Well its a canadian service... http://expressvu.logient.com/condoTV;jsessionid=E0E9E2B4F12BA4EE4A6819A82F7878B1?ADV=condoTV Tv is pretty cheap and internet 3mbit 35$/month or 30$/month( canadian). Im getting both very soon, Hey this is off topic, im thinking of getting Voip soon, will it affect my internet performance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunted Posted August 23, 2005 Author CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 oh well i cant open that link for some reason but if you have decent connection you wont even notice the voip on. i use teamspeak chat software and that uses 25kb on the best settings so voip cant use more than that and if it did its not much more so you should be fine if your upload is atleast over 384 up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffman1234 Posted August 23, 2005 CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 Try this , www.bell.ca, go to television section ( This is for condos only, but soon it will be for homes i have heard that, sometime in january), click on tv service for condos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn0 Posted August 23, 2005 CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 BTW, use IE to open that site. I had the same issue until I tried IE. Firefox just comes up blank like nothing is there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn0 Posted August 23, 2005 CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 Is Bell offering IPTV? I didn't think anyone got that off the ground yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunted Posted August 23, 2005 Author CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 yup it opens a blank page but i'll open it on IE when i unblock it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffman1234 Posted August 23, 2005 CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 http://i.dslr.net/pics/faqs/image73629.gif That is how it works, dont know what iptv is, but signal comes thru phoneline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn0 Posted August 23, 2005 CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 http://i.dslr.net/pics/faqs/image73629.gif That is how it works, dont know what iptv is, but signal comes thru phoneline Sure looks like an IPTV set-up to me. Well, a quick Google search and I see the answer to my own question: http://www.microsoft.com/tv/content/press/BellCanadaPR.mspx How do you like it so far? Any problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffman1234 Posted August 23, 2005 CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 I dont have it yet, but in about a month and a half it will be all set up, im getting the 3mbit/800 connection. What is so good about VDSL? People susbcribed to it say it is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunted Posted August 23, 2005 Author CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 its just a newer technology of dsl allowing faster speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffman1234 Posted August 23, 2005 CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 Well the fastest bell offers is 5000/800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn0 Posted August 23, 2005 CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 I dont have it yet, but in about a month and a half it will be all set up, im getting the 3mbit/800 connection. What is so good about VDSL? People susbcribed to it say it is great. As I look back, I see you said that you are getting Bell TV soon (I should have opened my eyes). I am not sure of the advantages of VDSL vs ADSL, etc. I believe it offers higher speeds, but at shorter distances. Need the speed for video. A standard digital cable video stream is around 3-4 mbps. High definition is just under 10mbps, I believe. So to get a consistent quality picture thru the phone line, you need a higher data rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunted Posted August 23, 2005 Author CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 vdsl is capable of over 10 mb easy and can go over 25 mb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffman1234 Posted August 23, 2005 CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 Cool, i hope i get good performance, some guy said he always gets around his advertised speeds. i wll be paying 30$ (canadian) for 3000/800. I think thats a good deal. Hi-speed for the price of lite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbaker397 Posted August 23, 2005 CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 Only reason VDSL didn't take off: Distance. You MUST be under 1000 feet(or less) from the CO or the RT to recieve it. That's basically why we skipped it and went to VDSL2+, which is the cheap telco's alternative to an FTTP Solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffman1234 Posted August 23, 2005 CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 I hope i dont get slowdowns on the internet side when all 3 tv's are running Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted August 23, 2005 CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 As I look back, I see you said that you are getting Bell TV soon (I should have opened my eyes). I am not sure of the advantages of VDSL vs ADSL, etc. I believe it offers higher speeds, but at shorter distances. Need the speed for video. A standard digital cable video stream is around 3-4 Mbps. High definition is just under 10Mbps, I believe. So to get a consistent quality picture thru the phone line, you need a higher data rate. whats wrong with you a standard sigital cable stream is not arount 2-4Mbps try 8-10Mbps and pure HD 1080p is 38Mbps 1080i is 32-33Mbps and 720p is 19Mbps and since mode providers are not going to use VDSL there going to use ADSL2 and ADSL2+ ware you can get upto 66mbps down and 12mbps up. So there will be no problem getting HDTV over a phone line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunted Posted August 23, 2005 Author CID Share Posted August 23, 2005 adsl is limited to about 1 mb up and 8 mb down. i dont know about adsl 2 but i think its faster speeds at further distances. gonna look for it to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbaker397 Posted August 24, 2005 CID Share Posted August 24, 2005 Hey all I found a good source for info on ADSL2+, even has a nifty graph showing distance/speed relations. The other links (one for now, i may find more) have info on VDSL/ VDSL2+ http://www.internode.on.net/adsl2/ http://computer.howstuffworks.com/vdsl3.htm http://gigaom.com/2005/05/19/vdsl2-100-mbps-over-copper-next/ -a little older, but still a good place for information Hope this helps answer some questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn0 Posted August 24, 2005 CID Share Posted August 24, 2005 whats wrong with you a standard sigital cable stream is not arount 2-4Mbps try 8-10Mbps and pure HD 1080p is 38Mbps 1080i is 32-33Mbps and 720p is 19Mbps and since mode providers are not going to use VDSL there going to use ADSL2 and ADSL2+ ware you can get upto 66mbps down and 12mbps up. So there will be no problem getting HDTV over a phone line. I was pulling these stats out of my head. We run approx 8-10 (on average) standard definition video channels on one 6MHz (actually 5.36057) 256 QAM channel. Some channels can be compressed more than others, but 38mbps / 10 = ~3.8 mbps on average per single video stream. Now we can carry 2 high def channels per 256 QAM carrier (feasibly at this time) so that = 38 mbps / 2 = ~16 mbps per video stream. You got me on my bad math on the high def part. Thats how we get 250 channels (and nothing on) on a 110 channel system. Keep in mind that the majority of most cablecos spectrum is still analog (1 video stream per 6MHZ channel). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffman1234 Posted August 24, 2005 CID Share Posted August 24, 2005 i will be having 3 tv's on running at the same time and internet, will i have slowdowns? So can you achieve over advertised speeds with VDSL, and i am in the area for VDSL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn0 Posted August 24, 2005 CID Share Posted August 24, 2005 i will be having 3 tv's on running at the same time and internet, will i have slowdowns? So can you achieve over advertised speeds with VDSL, and i am in the area for VDSL. I can't say for sure, duffman, but I would venture to guess that the video will be allotted dedicated bandwidth separate from your internet connection, although on the same line. So my best guess is No, I don't believe it will have an affect on internet speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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