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It is just ways to type stuff faster lol for example laughing out loud. Universial shorthand for generation x. Or the people that were born in the 1980's. The other stuff is just a way to make your typing look cool. ph34r= fear. Look around you can find most of this with a simple search of yahoo

For dsl look for ADSL that has a high download speed. 9mb is the maximum download the ADSL can support. Something in the 1.5-3 mb range is good. Upload is important for online games/file sharing so something like 250 to 300 is decent. Again 640kbs is the max for ADSL. Post some plans you are looking at an we can let you know.

The lowest ping that i have seen on a 56k line 120~140ms. This is nothing like broadband. Here is my ping for testmy.net Reply from 69.56.184.110: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=48 Reply from 69.56.184.110: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=48 Reply from 69.56.184.110: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=48 Reply from 69.56.184.110: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=48 Ping statistics for 69.56.184.110: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 30ms, Maximum = 50ms, Average = 37ms Now you can jump on the bandwagon!! Check with the phone company about dsl. I know in illinois, where i live, SBC offers a 1.5/256 package for $27.99 which is about the same price as an extra phone line and 56k service per month. Now the speed on this package isnt great but it is broadband. Check it out! you phone company might offer something very simular and it could be cheap because they own the physical line. Also the telephone number doesnt matter at all. Remember you want ADSL and not SDSL. ADSL stands for asymmetic digital suscriber line. the peak speeds are 9mb download/640upload. the provides the option for the phone company to up the speed if the bandwidth is available. Just look around a bit. A great site is http://www.dslreports.com to find good service in your area. Cable is going to be more expensive but the speeds will be faster then a dsl line. Good luck

ROFLMFAO rolling on the floor laughing my f*&$ing ass off There you go! ph34r It stands for fear ph=f 3=e 4=a any other questions XDSL is a generic term for DSL the x represents the letter infront of the DSL like ADSL & SDSL, HDSL HDSL is high speed DSL.

I think it depends on how far away the file server is... The longer the distance the more switches/routers the information has to go through. Also you location is important. Most servers are located near major internet backbones that run in the gig/sec catigory. CA3LE will know all about this stuff.

Hey guys check this out. I think that i am going to build a computer into a military ammo case. Then use a mortar case or a used tank casing as my holding tank for my watercooling. I am currently looking for a donor computer! if you have any idea where i could get one cheap that would be awesome!! here is a pic of the mortar case http://www.omahas.com/catalog/images/products/MSC559sm.jpg

I have found one of the first 75 gig raptor reviews... http://www.hardavenue.com/reviews/wdraptor741.shtml

Everyone the site is done! www.hard2comp.2ya.com I know it isnt a .com address but i dont want to spend the money yet! Let me know what you think

That seems really fast!!!

That seems really fast!!!

Tracert stands for trace route or the route that the packet that you sent through the "internet" and then to is destination. The numbers i believe is the time for the packet to respond. Basically a tracert is a more advanced ping command. It does tell you what routers, servers, and switches your packet is sent through. This is really helpful if you have connection to some site but it is really slow to other. Running a tracert to find the slow router can verify that it is the router and not your connection! If you get * that means that the request timed out!!! That is not a good thing. That means that the router/switch is either under load or it was some how lost. One * isnt a big deal but if you have like 3 or more on a single tracert that would lead me to believe that here might be something wrong with your connection. CA3LE should know all about this stuff he works for COX Here is my tracert to testmy.net Tracing route to testmy.net [69.56.184.110] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.0.1 2 <10 ms 11 ms 10 ms 10.168.160.1 3 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms 68.87.227.217 4 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 68.87.229.133 5 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 12.118.239.57 6 10 ms 10 ms 20 ms tbr1-p012301.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.123.6.9] 7 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms ggr2-p300.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.123.6.33] 8 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms att-gw.sf.prserv.net [192.205.32.194] 9 10 ms 20 ms 10 ms p16-1-0-0.r01.chcgil06.us.bb.verio.net [129.250. 5.77] 10 30 ms 40 ms 30 ms p16-0-1-1.r20.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250. 5.85] 11 30 ms 40 ms 30 ms ge-2-0-0.a10.dllstx01.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.3 1.58] 12 30 ms 30 ms 40 ms ge-1-1.a00.dllstx04.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.31. 44] 13 40 ms 50 ms 40 ms ge-9-3.a00.dllstx04.us.ce.verio.net [157.238.228 .38] 14 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms car2-2-v1.dllstx2.theplanet.com [12.96.160.14] 15 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms 69-56-184-110.theplanet.com [69.56.184.110] Trace complete.

Tracert stands for trace route or the route that the packet that you sent through the "internet" and then to is destination. The numbers i believe is the time for the packet to respond. Basically a tracert is a more advanced ping command. It does tell you what routers, servers, and switches your packet is sent through. This is really helpful if you have connection to some site but it is really slow to other. Running a tracert to find the slow router can verify that it is the router and not your connection! If you get * that means that the request timed out!!! That is not a good thing. That means that the router/switch is either under load or it was some how lost. One * isnt a big deal but if you have like 3 or more on a single tracert that would lead me to believe that here might be something wrong with your connection. CA3LE should know all about this stuff he works for COX Here is my tracert to testmy.net Tracing route to testmy.net [69.56.184.110] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.0.1 2 <10 ms 11 ms 10 ms 10.168.160.1 3 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms 68.87.227.217 4 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 68.87.229.133 5 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 12.118.239.57 6 10 ms 10 ms 20 ms tbr1-p012301.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.123.6.9] 7 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms ggr2-p300.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.123.6.33] 8 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms att-gw.sf.prserv.net [192.205.32.194] 9 10 ms 20 ms 10 ms p16-1-0-0.r01.chcgil06.us.bb.verio.net [129.250. 5.77] 10 30 ms 40 ms 30 ms p16-0-1-1.r20.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250. 5.85] 11 30 ms 40 ms 30 ms ge-2-0-0.a10.dllstx01.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.3 1.58] 12 30 ms 30 ms 40 ms ge-1-1.a00.dllstx04.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.31. 44] 13 40 ms 50 ms 40 ms ge-9-3.a00.dllstx04.us.ce.verio.net [157.238.228 .38] 14 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms car2-2-v1.dllstx2.theplanet.com [12.96.160.14] 15 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms 69-56-184-110.theplanet.com [69.56.184.110] Trace complete.

boooo hissssss. just kidding i am not a big intel fan. looks sweet... Y are you not going with the extreme 3.2??

boooo hissssss. just kidding i am not a big intel fan. looks sweet... Y are you not going with the extreme 3.2??

yeah... there will be some kick ass advancements!!! I think that the 3400+ is the way to go for now! you never know amd could release some crazy chip for the socket 752. As far as the memory: Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, Low Latency 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - Retail Specification Manufacturer: Corsair Speed: DDR400(PC3200) Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM Error Checking: Non-ECC Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered Cas Latency: 2-3-2-6 Support Voltage: 2.6V Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit Special Features: with Platinum-Silver Heat Spreader Warranty: Lifetime This is my vote.

yeah... there will be some kick ass advancements!!! I think that the 3400+ is the way to go for now! you never know amd could release some crazy chip for the socket 752. As far as the memory: Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, Low Latency 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - Retail Specification Manufacturer: Corsair Speed: DDR400(PC3200) Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM Error Checking: Non-ECC Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered Cas Latency: 2-3-2-6 Support Voltage: 2.6V Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit Special Features: with Platinum-Silver Heat Spreader Warranty: Lifetime This is my vote.

the both combos are the best as of right now. There is no way that that can be disputed other than if you like a different brand, style, etc. However Lorne wanted dual channel memory capibilities. Since the current 3400+ doesnt support it the fx51, the ONLY 64bit dual channel amd processor, is the best choice right now. It isnt as fast. I think that we are going to see tons of development in the next few years in terms of processors. This side of the market had been pretty dead til the last few months with the release of the 64bit. Knowing that Intel will release a 64bit some time AMD is sure to make their processors faster and the entire speed war starts again. I will hold off to tell you what i think til later today when i have time to look at a few things.

Ok here is the deal... The current Athlon chip does not support dual channel. However, the next chip based on the 90nm process code name "winchester" will!! The winchester is base on the socket 939. Rendering the current chip helpless when the new stuff comes out that does support dual channel. Here is amd's processor roadmap. Lorne is currently in a tough place. does he build now or wait for the new tech to come out?? I havent read enough about winchester to know detailed specs but i will continue posting if I find something. Here is how i know that winchester will support dual channel. http://www.neoseeker.com/news/story/2994 Keep posting for build ideas...

dont go fx yet.... That is what i got from the AMD website i might not be understanding it correctly. Let mort post before the final specs are set in stone. The 3400+ is faster!! if you want dual channel support the Asus SK8N Specifications: Supported CPU: Socket 940 AMD Athlon 64 FX/Opteron 100/200 Processors Chipset: NVDIA nForce3 Pro150 FSB: Scalable HyperTransport Bus RAM: 4x DIMM support Dual Channel Reg DDR333/266/200 Max 8GB IDE: 3x UltraDMA 100/133 up to 6 Devices Slots: 1x AGP 8X, 5x PCI Ports: 2xPS2,1xLPT,1xCOM,6xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xLAN,2xIEEE1394(Rear 1),Audio Ports Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC650 6-Channel Onboard LAN: RealTek 8201BL 10/100Mbps Onboard SATA/RAID: 2x Serial ATA; Promise

This is what asus says 3 x 184-pin DIMM Sockets support max. 3GB un-buffered ECC and non-ECC PC3200/PC2700 / PC2100 DDR SDRAM memory This is what the Asus manual says: The motherboard comes with three Double Data Rate (DDR) Dual Inline Memory Module(DIMM) sockets. These sockets support up to 3GB system memory using 184-pin PC3200/PC2700/PC2100/PC1600 unbuffered ECC DDR DIMMs and allow up to 5.33GB/s data transfer rate. Crucial 184 Pin 512MB ECC DDR PC-3200 - OEM Specification Manufacturer: Crucial Speed: DDR400(PC3200) Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM Error Checking: ECC Registered/Unbuffered: UnbufferedCas Latency: 3 Support Voltage: 2.5V Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s Organization: 64M x 72 -Bit Warranty: Lifetime Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, Low Latency 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - Retail Specification Manufacturer: Corsair Speed: DDR400(PC3200) Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM Error Checking: Non-ECC Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered Cas Latency: 2-3-2-6 Support Voltage: 2.6V Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit Special Features: with Platinum-Silver Heat Spreader Warranty: Lifetime This has the same timings as the previous ram that i recommened. However, the only amd processor that can use dual channel memory is the fx-51. That has 128bit memory controller and the 3400+ only has a 64bit one. Meaning, i believe, that you want to buy the biggest chip that you can.

huh... that is messed. Let me look into that

I would go with the corsair or the ocz memory. I have never heard of mushkin...so i dont know anything about them.

No prob!! You might want to check you providers help forums if they have one just to see if you are not the only one with a slow down. You also might see that the speed will return shortly a soon as they get another area on their network.

For all of you that are interested Lorne and I have decided to build a website that will show updates and follow the building of the Pimputer. Also on this site we would like to have numerous reviews of products that you currently own. If you are interested in writing a review please contact me!! My email is under my member profile along with an aim contact address!! The site will be lauched some time this weekend along with the final specs for the pimputer. I believe that the project will last 6-10 months?? Lorne is that correct?? With benchmarking the entire way!! and tons of photos of the sweet components.

yeah it does!!