Planatoid

That's what a divider does, it makes your RAM start at a default speed of say, 166MHz instead of the normal 200MHz. That way, when you put your FSB up, it's not overclocking your ram until you break 200MHz again.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Nothing I have said is wrong, you just don't think you can have a good OC without overclocking your RAM, and you can. If you don't have good RAM, there's no reason to not OC your CPU just because of your RAM. It's like saying, if money was not a problem, that there's no reason to get a 3800+ Venice instead of a 3000+ Venice. When in fact there is a 600MHz difference, yet both CPUs will run memory at 200MHz. Use your brain.

You people have some pretty retarded ideas.

It's not a theory, and I never said it was useless. 1:1 is the goal of most overclockers, however, it's not necessary for a good overclock. Running a divider is not a bad thing, especially if you have RAM that can't go much above 200MHz.

So in my case, it would be pointless to overclock my CPU 850MHz if I had to use a divider in order to do so? That makes a lot of sense. I do use a divider, anyways, with my RAM at 243MHz. If you buy cheap RAM and overclock your CPU and still keep it around 200MHz, you're doing great.

You don't need good RAM, that's where the divider comes in, if you can't afford it. I'd have to suggest against s940 CPUs, .

True 3800+? The 3800+ Venice was out before the 3800+ X2, so it would be, in fact, the true 3800+. The 3800+ Venice is an alright chip, but you could easily get the 3000+ or 3200+ to 2.4GHz very easily. I run my 3000+ Venice at 2.66GHz 24/7 without problems. However, if you do plan on overclocking, I'd suggest the Opteron 144 as it has a 1MB cache. If you can get it to 2.8GHz, you have an FX-57 for $170.

I'm not a big fan of Thermaltake, but this is one of their basic cases, which is good, and it has good airflow: http://www.chiefvalue.com/product/productdetails.aspx?submit=&item=11-133-174&ATTCases%20Computer%20Cases Umm, no, that's a different CPU. Look at the model number and the voltage spec. They''ve had the two different listings for a long time.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103533 You think they're actually going to have the more expensive revision in their cheapo barebones? Actually, we're both wrong. It's a Clawhammer core, not even a Venice.

It's actually $109.00. What's your pricerange? And what exactly do you want? An entire new system? If you give us that, we can find some good deals for you. Never skimp on the motherboard and PSU, those are some of the most important components in a computer.

Dr. variety? And $219.00 for 1GB?

Yeah, reinstall, though. Don't reformat or you'll lose your data.

I'd suggest repairing Windows, or reinstalling. Just don't reformat and your files should still be there. After you get back in and backup your files, I'd reformat and reinstall so it'll be more stable.

None of the modes work?

Dell is ghey. How much are you willing to spend? http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/viewproduct.php?show=S47D They make the best PSUs around. Edit: Bah, I'm dumb. How many amps does your 12v rail have? Look right on your PSU. That's the only thing that matters.

Does anything not work? Can you run msconfig and uncheck it from the startup list?

Wow, that's scary. I'm glad they never had service in my area or their 6-months for free might have been tempting.

Conroe, .

DDR2 is a joke right now anways, as far as performance. That's one major thing that'll keep me away from AM2. When DDR3 comes out for CPUs, then we'll be talking.

What the heck are you saying "bass" for?

I don't think an ATI+AMD vs. nVidia+Intel would be a good thing. I like being able to choose between all four.

The internet at my college blows. We have one T3 for 2500 students. It's worse than dial-up a lot of the time. I don't know where they put that $36000 per year....

I agree.

Interesting. I wonder if nVidia will still make motherboards that support AMD CPUs if this happens.

You won't be able to upgrade to a new mobo without a new case, and most likely a new PSU. Dell loves to stick proprietary crap in their systems, and aftermarket stuff is not compatible with their hardware. If your price is unlimited, as you said, I'd go for an Opteron 165, 7900GT, and either the DFI Infinity SLI mobo, or one of their higher versions. I can suggest a PSU if you're actually interested.