intel and amd have never even been close to being on the same page with there processors. its not even funny how far off they have both been for the last 3 years. Intel had there huge fat pipeline, amd had there nice and shot pipeline, amd had small amounts of cache, intel had hugh amounts of cache. Intel finally got there head out of there ass and realized that clock speed is not the answer. and now they got this insanely fast low wattage, low heat processor, while amd is going for this high wattage very hot setup that will come out after conroe. so they have always been a different page.