x_6985381 Posted July 5, 2006 CID Share Posted July 5, 2006 believe me the xoxide x-ventillator provide's maxium ventilation and keeps me running excellently cool. check it out my man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disturbed Posted July 5, 2006 CID Share Posted July 5, 2006 thats a pertty good processor. the difference is the san diego chips have 1mb of cachem the venice ones just have 512kb. and the fact taht the true 3800+ is a dual core...and this isnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planatoid Posted July 5, 2006 CID Share Posted July 5, 2006 and the fact taht the true 3800+ is a dual core...and this isnt True 3800+? The 3800+ Venice was out before the 3800+ X2, so it would be, in fact, the true 3800+. The 3800+ Venice is an alright chip, but you could easily get the 3000+ or 3200+ to 2.4GHz very easily. I run my 3000+ Venice at 2.66GHz 24/7 without problems. However, if you do plan on overclocking, I'd suggest the Opteron 144 as it has a 1MB cache. If you can get it to 2.8GHz, you have an FX-57 for $170. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amc11890 Posted July 5, 2006 Author CID Share Posted July 5, 2006 True 3800+? The 3800+ Venice was out before the 3800+ X2, so it would be, in fact, the true 3800+. The 3800+ Venice is an alright chip, but you could easily get the 3000+ or 3200+ to 2.4GHz very easily. I run my 3000+ Venice at 2.66GHz 24/7 without problems. However, if you do plan on overclocking, I'd suggest the Opteron 144 as it has a 1MB cache. If you can get it to 2.8GHz, you have an FX-57 for $170. yeah i was reading some reviews and someones managed to get it up to 2.8ghz. I will definately consider that over the amd 64 3800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coknuck Posted July 5, 2006 CID Share Posted July 5, 2006 Most AMD will overclock 500Mhz with no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdawnaz Posted July 5, 2006 CID Share Posted July 5, 2006 $122.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103603 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103533 You think they're actually going to have the more expensive revision in their cheapo barebones? what's the difference between those two...i can't see any nevermind it's a difference in voltage 1.35 vs 1.35/1.4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amc11890 Posted July 5, 2006 Author CID Share Posted July 5, 2006 Are the asrock motherboards good for overclocking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted July 5, 2006 CID Share Posted July 5, 2006 Are the asrock motherboards good for overclocking? they are good at over clocking but nothing like an asus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coknuck Posted July 5, 2006 CID Share Posted July 5, 2006 I have a ASRock K7S41 with a Sempron 2400+ 1.67Ghz OCed to 2.0 and it runs great. And yes they are easy to overclock. I wish mine had all the options as the one I gave you a link to. Did you read the second link to OCWorkbench. You can really work that board. Here is the link again. http://www.ocworkbench.com/2005/asrock/reviews/939Dual-SATA2/g1.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disturbed Posted July 5, 2006 CID Share Posted July 5, 2006 yeah i was reading some reviews and someones managed to get it up to 2.8GHz. I will definately consider that over the amd 64 3800. so many factors come in when you start overclocking.....you need good ram, good motherboard, good power supply - on top of that, you have different production weeks for processors = different steppings - there is absolutely no guarantee you will be able to o/c as good as the next person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amc11890 Posted July 6, 2006 Author CID Share Posted July 6, 2006 http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=120847 ^^ Pretty good deal. Should i get that or amd 3800 venice? Im thinkin the opteron. Prob gonna be a lot faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disturbed Posted July 6, 2006 CID Share Posted July 6, 2006 opteron is a way to go if interested in o/c - ....but read my post above ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amc11890 Posted July 6, 2006 Author CID Share Posted July 6, 2006 opteron is a way to go if interested in o/c - ....but read my post above ^ Yeah i fully understand that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planatoid Posted July 6, 2006 CID Share Posted July 6, 2006 so many factors come in when you start overclocking.....you need good ram, good motherboard, good power supply - on top of that, you have different production weeks for processors = different steppings - there is absolutely no guarantee you will be able to o/c as good as the next person You don't need good RAM, that's where the divider comes in, if you can't afford it. Yeah i fully understand that. I'd have to suggest against s940 CPUs, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disturbed Posted July 6, 2006 CID Share Posted July 6, 2006 You don't need good RAM, that's where the divider comes in, if you can't afford it. I'd have to suggest against s940 CPUs, . whats the point of overclocking your processor if you are going to run your ram on the worst divider possible - you might create a bottleneck in your system by doing this - so yes, to have a good o/c you do need good ram - if you cant afford it, then you are stuck with whatever you have - thats besides the point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planatoid Posted July 7, 2006 CID Share Posted July 7, 2006 whats the point of overclocking your processor if you are going to run your ram on the worst divider possible - you might create a bottleneck in your system by doing this - so yes, to have a good o/c you do need good ram - if you cant afford it, then you are stuck with whatever you have - thats besides the point So in my case, it would be pointless to overclock my CPU 850MHz if I had to use a divider in order to do so? That makes a lot of sense. I do use a divider, anyways, with my RAM at 243MHz. If you buy cheap RAM and overclock your CPU and still keep it around 200MHz, you're doing great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disturbed Posted July 7, 2006 CID Share Posted July 7, 2006 so the entire theory about having your cpu running with your ram in 1:1 is useless you say ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disturbed Posted July 7, 2006 CID Share Posted July 7, 2006 the only reason why you run divider on ram is if its a poor o/c - no one's goal is to run a 7/10 divider unless they absolutely have to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planatoid Posted July 7, 2006 CID Share Posted July 7, 2006 so the entire theory about having your cpu running with your ram in 1:1 is useless you say ? It's not a theory, and I never said it was useless. 1:1 is the goal of most overclockers, however, it's not necessary for a good overclock. Running a divider is not a bad thing, especially if you have RAM that can't go much above 200MHz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
php Posted July 7, 2006 CID Share Posted July 7, 2006 Maybe not, but your processor can only process data as fast as it's being given data to process... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planatoid Posted July 7, 2006 CID Share Posted July 7, 2006 You people have some pretty retarded ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disturbed Posted July 7, 2006 CID Share Posted July 7, 2006 yes, us people who know what we are talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planatoid Posted July 7, 2006 CID Share Posted July 7, 2006 You have no idea what you're talking about. Nothing I have said is wrong, you just don't think you can have a good OC without overclocking your RAM, and you can. If you don't have good RAM, there's no reason to not OC your CPU just because of your RAM. It's like saying, if money was not a problem, that there's no reason to get a 3800+ Venice instead of a 3000+ Venice. When in fact there is a 600MHz difference, yet both CPUs will run memory at 200MHz. Use your brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted July 7, 2006 CID Share Posted July 7, 2006 well it doesnt really matter anyways becuase when you over clock your CPU eveything in your system gets over clocked becuse your front side bus goes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planatoid Posted July 7, 2006 CID Share Posted July 7, 2006 well it doesnt really matter anyways becuase when you over clock your CPU eveything in your system gets over clocked becuse your front side bus goes up. That's what a divider does, it makes your RAM start at a default speed of say, 166MHz instead of the normal 200MHz. That way, when you put your FSB up, it's not overclocking your ram until you break 200MHz again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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