Swimmer Posted January 31, 2005 CID Share Posted January 31, 2005 Well some russians, thank you god for the russian!!!, anaylists have found a huge holes in Microsofts latestest and greatest service pack (SP2)... Just to let you know this service pack had more delays, budget problems, and cause havoc at Microsoft.. They were pulling people off the Longhorn project, the next great installment of the Windows operation system, to finish the freaking thing. They "wanted" to make sure that the firewall and other protection apps were as good as they could be.. Well that failed!! Half of the business world doesnt run the damn thing because it causes huge problems with other programs. and degrades system proformance on many name brand systems.. due to the OEM copy of the os... Either way there is a problem and here is what they have to say about it... "We found two small flaws that a programmer could use to go around the SP2 mechanism Data Execution Protection (DEP)," said Positive Technologies Chief Technology Officer Yury Maximov on Monday. So there you have it.. want to read more.. click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJVageli Posted January 31, 2005 CID Share Posted January 31, 2005 So what should we do Should we download that patch,or is it really not as dangerous as they say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted January 31, 2005 CID Share Posted January 31, 2005 seems like this will never stop, hackers will always find holes unfortunely but you can minimize it by using latest patches and also a good virus and external firewall. those can update their definitions alot faster then microsoft realease a fix VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted January 31, 2005 CID Share Posted January 31, 2005 So what should we do Should we download that patch,or is it really not as dangerous as they say i wouldnt download it, update your firewall and virus programs and wait for a Microsoft patch VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJVageli Posted January 31, 2005 CID Share Posted January 31, 2005 Ok I am too lazy to download it anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted January 31, 2005 Author CID Share Posted January 31, 2005 I agree with Van Burren.. dont download the patch.. too risky... Run a firewall and good anti-virus and you should be ok.. Microsoft's firewall doesnt count! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted January 31, 2005 CID Share Posted January 31, 2005 i'm using and still no errors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJVageli Posted January 31, 2005 CID Share Posted January 31, 2005 Any good firewall u guys recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted January 31, 2005 Author CID Share Posted January 31, 2005 well i guess you are just really lucky or you dont know that you have been hacked.. Zone alarm, PC-cillin, there are a bunch out there.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted January 31, 2005 CID Share Posted January 31, 2005 linux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICROWAVE Posted January 31, 2005 CID Share Posted January 31, 2005 Thats just one more reason that I keep saying I'm not a big fan of sp2, I recently had a conversation with someone I have "known" over the net for a few years and he told me that when sp2 is breeched by someone it has allowed more and easier access to everything on a P.C...... I guess it really doesn't matter once someone gets into your puter the party is over anyway. My argument has always been that for many ppl sp2 slows down their connection or freezes the puter............. and my favorite flaw is it doesn't work properly with other pgms........of course there are many ppl that have installed sp2 and it seems to work O.K.......unless they have been hacked and are not aware of it YET. There are always two sides to ever coin or in this case "patch". Microwave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus_____ Posted January 31, 2005 CID Share Posted January 31, 2005 I've been using SP-1a and it's been absolutely great... I don't think I'm going to move up to SP2... Seems people either hate it or love it.... no in between.... If I want firewall protection I'll use some third-party software... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJVageli Posted January 31, 2005 CID Share Posted January 31, 2005 Once you have sp2 is there anyway to get rid of it? Or am i stuck with it,because I think that is the reason my laptop has become so vulnerable to crap,and it seems to be very slow on the internet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted January 31, 2005 CID Share Posted January 31, 2005 SP2 is great, and i dont think it has more holes then SP1 i think its reversed i suggest to get rid of unwanted services in both SP1 and SP2, then you will have a faster machine, i attach a file describing how thats all i did with SP2 and i pull 9,2 Mbps from Testmy.net all the way from Sweden, with some cablenut tweaks offcourse VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted January 31, 2005 Author CID Share Posted January 31, 2005 yeah you can uninstall it assuming that you chose the option to back everything up before install the damn thing.. I am very anti sp2... you dont need it if you are running the right things and take care of your computer like a ferrari.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJVageli Posted January 31, 2005 CID Share Posted January 31, 2005 I downloaded it and used its instructions and disabled some things,now I want to know should I have done the extreme tweak one or the "safe" one.I used the "safe" one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted January 31, 2005 CID Share Posted January 31, 2005 I use safe and i recommend others to use it aswell, i tried the gamer and extream but windows didnt work as it should then, program conficts and so on SAFE works great ! VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJVageli Posted February 1, 2005 CID Share Posted February 1, 2005 It sure does,I already noticed a tremendous speed boost in my laptop,not internet boost but a system boost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkieXL Posted February 1, 2005 CID Share Posted February 1, 2005 Being a die-hard Win2000 user, this all just solidifies my view of the over-rated, bloated & pitiful XP. The next 100mb+ service pack/boat anchor download should be titled "Service Pack 3 from the Temple of Doom"..... -JxL ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted February 1, 2005 Author CID Share Posted February 1, 2005 amen to that!! 2000pro was a great operating system!! basically the same as XP with out the extra fluff!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xs1 Posted February 1, 2005 CID Share Posted February 1, 2005 Im running sp2 on this machine ( because i could care less... not my machine ) And iv said it before, and will most likely continue to say it. SP2 is absolutely horrid. I will never install it, even if it was a complete nessesity. Id sooner go to mac or linux before i "had" to go to sp2. Same goes for win98SE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted February 1, 2005 CID Share Posted February 1, 2005 Its funny ppl dissing SP2 but i cant see some solid information why its so bad compared to SP1 The only thing SP2 slowing down is some p2p applications, there is a fix for that here https://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=1497 it take some more sytem resources, so with lack of RAM and CPU you will slowdown, then disable unwanted Services with the file i attach. VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xs1 Posted February 1, 2005 CID Share Posted February 1, 2005 lol we dont need some html imaging and text to prove sp2 is horrible. Actual experence is the bestr proof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanBuren Posted February 1, 2005 CID Share Posted February 1, 2005 lol we dont need some html imaging and text to prove sp2 is horrible. Actual experence is the bestr proof and i dont have experence? what ever dude VanBuren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted February 1, 2005 Author CID Share Posted February 1, 2005 ok first of all my dell... if I install SP2 on my dell it has problems just booting.. something in the SP2 software doesnt like Centrino based stuff... Second, there wasnt any thing all that great in SP2.. Wow a program to monitor what is being updated and a few fixes.. which i guess were really holes.. That is why you turn on the automatic update for your virus protection and firewall..?!?! I dont see the advantage of slowing down your system with something that you dont need... Yes you can disable services.. that will help some what but not everyone wants to run around in the service manager and stop them all, you know that they are all running.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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