coknuck Posted October 2, 2014 CID Share Posted October 2, 2014 I decided to go with Mint 17 32bit I get this: Notebook-PC ~/Downloads $ sudo mv -v ~/Downloads/jre1.7.0_67 /opt/java/32 mv: inter-device move failed: ‘/home/richard/Downloads/jre1.7.0_67’ to ‘/opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_67’; unable to remove target: Is a directory I deleted IcedTea Java-plug-in. like it said to. Here is alink to what I've been using to install Java JRE 32bit https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/java#TOC-Remove-the-browser-plug-in-of-the-old-version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA3LE Posted October 2, 2014 CID Share Posted October 2, 2014 How's mint running? Last time I installed it I thought it was pretty nice. Nice snappy linux feel. $ sudo mv -v ~/Downloads/jre1.7.0_67 /opt/java/32 mv: inter-device move failed: ‘/home/richard/Downloads/jre1.7.0_67’ to ‘/opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_67’; unable to remove target: Is a directory Here's the last thing I moved... cp -R -p /var/lib/mysql /home/mysql broken down copy -Recursive (go within all folders and within their folders too) -parents (remove DIRECTORY and its ancestors; e.g., `rmdir -p a/b/c' is similar to `rmdir a/b/c a/b a') /source/dir/var /destination/dir/var If you're trying to delete the files use rm -Rf (recursive & force makes it get everything and have no 'remove?' prompt) or rmdir sudo mv -v ~/Downloads/jre1.7.0_67/* /opt/java/32 -Rf might work too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmanc4 Posted October 2, 2014 CID Share Posted October 2, 2014 May I ask how much RAM and videoRAM this laptop has? Seems like your progressing through distros pretty good, which is normal. You might find openSuse to be something to scout. With it's 'direct install' features, which allows for point and click (for the most part) installs of many packages, or applications in other words. Might also be a good idea to run in terminal sudo apt-get autoremove && apt-get clean After removing items that are system wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coknuck Posted October 2, 2014 Author CID Share Posted October 2, 2014 The Mint does run a lot quicker than windows and I do mean a lot quicker. Got it to run with the " sudo mv -v ~/Downloads/jre1.7.0_67/* /opt/java/32" This having to use the terminal all the time is becoming a pain in my back sit here so long trying to make things work. Google has be come my Bitch for information.. I think I will try the openSuse. Dose it matter which one I use? This laptop is: HP Pavilion dv7-1245dx AMD Turion X2 mobile processor RM-72 / 2.1 GHz 4 GB ( 2 x 2 GB ) I do really appreciate your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmanc4 Posted October 2, 2014 CID Share Posted October 2, 2014 You should have no problems running opensuse, though many times there is a bit of work to get the proper video drivers, for the best performance. Linux will use the standard driver to get you up and running, video wise. Use the latest version, after not using it for some time, a couple months ago I grabbed it and was completely shocked at it's completeness. Bar none the best GUI full featured production OS available right now. My opinion of course, but the possibilities are endless with that distro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coknuck Posted October 2, 2014 Author CID Share Posted October 2, 2014 I just installed Wine and that is making life a lot easier, Just installed utorrent for windows and it was a snap. So I try installing window based programs and see how that goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nanobot Posted October 2, 2014 CID Share Posted October 2, 2014 I've always liked straight-up Debian. (The version Ubuntu was based on.) Thanks, EBrown mudmanc4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA3LE Posted October 3, 2014 CID Share Posted October 3, 2014 I think I will try the openSuse. Dose it matter which one I use? This laptop is: HP Pavilion dv7-1245dx AMD Turion X2 mobile processor RM-72 / 2.1 GHz 4 GB ( 2 x 2 GB ) Nope, as long as your processor is 64 bit you can use either version. AMD Turion X2 RM-72 Series: AMD Turion X2 Codename: Puma Clock Rate: 2100 MHz Front Side Bus: 3600 MHz Level 2 Cache: 1024 KB Number of Cores / Threads: 2 / 2 Max. Power Consumption (TDP = Thermal Design Power): 35 Watt Manufacturing Technology: 65 nm Socket: S1 Features: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, Enhanced 3DNow!, NX bit, AMD64, PowerNow!, AMD Virtualization 64 Bit: 64 Bit support Hardware Virtualization: AMD-V Announcement Date: 01/01/2009 You're good to go. ... or did you already install openSuse? You should also look at Fedora [download] and like EBrown said, Debian [download]. Both are well supported distros. Try the live CD's, when you find the distro you like best, you'll know it. It will just feel right. Just for reference... Linux Mint [download] Ubuntu [download] see Linux Foundation Desktop Distro Listing for more flavors Let us know what you decide to go with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coknuck Posted October 3, 2014 Author CID Share Posted October 3, 2014 I'm going to stick with the Mint 17 for a while. I know if I have problems this is the best place to ask for help. Thought I might try a live version of Debian. Which is better gnome or kde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nanobot Posted October 3, 2014 CID Share Posted October 3, 2014 KDE is similarly to Windows. GNOME is the more traditional Linux experience. Though I am disgusted at GNOME 3. I recommend LXDE. I used it with Debian and it was a very pleasant experience. Thanks, EBrown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coknuck Posted October 9, 2014 Author CID Share Posted October 9, 2014 To hell with all that Linux crap. Tried W 8.1 64bit and had nothing but trouble with sites. Now i using W 8.1 32bit and have no problems. Even tried the W 8.1 64bit twice just to make sure I didn't have a bad install. Thank you all for your help with Linux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nanobot Posted October 10, 2014 CID Share Posted October 10, 2014 Welcome to the real world, my friend. Thanks, EBrown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmanc4 Posted October 10, 2014 CID Share Posted October 10, 2014 To hell with all that Linux crap. Tried W 8.1 64bit and had nothing but trouble with sites. Now i using W 8.1 32bit and have no problems. Even tried the W 8.1 64bit twice just to make sure I didn't have a bad install. Thank you all for your help with Linux. The issue is not with Linux itself by any means, rather how microsoft has done such a fantastic job of creating a cheap market for users to ring the register in over the years, then conditioning them through GUI treatments, in order to create a mental flow that 'seems' natural. Which in turn makes doing anything different appear incorrect and feel wrong. Much in the same way that right handed writers feel while trying to write a paragraph with their left hand, and the opposite. See, I believe the founders of windows, not the creators but the marketers, knew well that there system could never hold a candle against the linux kernel, so they were great thinkers, instead they created and conditioned a mass market at a time when people were still surprised at not having to get up to change the TV channel. Leaving many millions of users at the whim and wishes of the tight constraints on top of the marketing, not the platform. Which in turn forces users to continue using windows products. Simply due to the above reference, where anything else feels wrong and awkward. So it's not necessarily that Linux is not this or that, it is that microsoft has done to prevent it's users from knowing how things work, not seeing anymore than the GUI, and using the GUI for help, (dumbing down a truly great platform) which creates a necessity and pattern for give me help, instead of how can i fix this or what can i do to make this more of what I want to see. Welcome to the real world, my friend. Thanks, EBrown What are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coknuck Posted October 10, 2014 Author CID Share Posted October 10, 2014 Its not that Linux was not good it was you had to know how to write the script to install most all programs, that became a big negative to me. The programs are out there it just getting them to work right. Got tired of using goggle everything. Seems its Linux is as big a spyware as Microsoft according to Richard Stallman. http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2257118/richard-stallman-says-ubuntu-linux-is-spyware Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmanc4 Posted October 10, 2014 CID Share Posted October 10, 2014 Its not that Linux was not good it was you had to know how to write the script to install most all programs, that became a big negative to me. The programs are out there it just getting them to work right. Got tired of using goggle everything. Seems its Linux is as big a spyware as Microsoft according to Richard Stallman. http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2257118/richard-stallman-says-ubuntu-linux-is-spyware I tried to get you to use Suse. Simply because it's MUCH more advanced in GUI friendly installs of packages (applications) Ubuntu went to the can some time ago, sure it's a solid distro, though about the same as Firefox is been destroyed. Personally I used ubuntu for a minute when it was claiming to be helping lift up those in Africa, I jumped in and started promoting and selling CD's, that lasted about a minute once clowns took over and started leeching from the endeavor. It's about as worthless as tits on a boarhog now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coknuck Posted October 10, 2014 Author CID Share Posted October 10, 2014 Next time I have enough room to partition, I'll Suse a shot. I'm good with 8.1 on one of my laptops. When Win 10 expires I'll use its partition. Got to keep trying or the mind goes stale. Again thanks for all the help!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nanobot Posted October 10, 2014 CID Share Posted October 10, 2014 What are you talking about?I'm referring to the fact that Windows is practically the de-facto standard for PC's and Laptops anymore. Yes, you have Apple/OS X computers. Yes, you have Android/Chromebook computers. Yes, you have Linux computers. But due to the fact that the majority of Corporate America uses the Windows OS for their Desktop and Laptop devices it has become second nature to use it. It's more difficult for people to switch from a Windows Device to a Mac or Linux device than it is the other way around, because at some point in their life they were almost certainly forced to use a Windows PC. Thanks, EBrown coknuck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmanc4 Posted October 12, 2014 CID Share Posted October 12, 2014 Why are we so stuck on corporate America as a reference. The entire 'online' sector is drastically moving 'mobile' , microsoft knows this , and knows it's completely out of that market, so they are attempting to jump on the 'cloud' bandwagon that so many not in the know seem to think is a good thing. Until they figure out that their logins and data is stored on one or hundreds or more of servers anywhere around the planet. I've been doing a good bit of corporate work over the last several years and I notice one thing, that has continuity through most businesses that are running microsoft on their workstations, they all continue to branch off the old (some very old) NT systems. The data held on these noisy monstrosities is massive, not to mention the legalities involved with the data storage, this explains to me the costs involved in 'upgrading' is more than the companies are willing to spend at the moment. Several of which I speak of could easily drop any dime they wanted while updating infrastructure, so why do they not? When they are well aware failure is immanent. They are waiting for something , which surely is not a dot release of a GUI update. Which is more or less all we have seen in the last 20+ years. My point is the claims that windows rules, might be true, but not for the reasons one might think . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudmanc4 Posted February 20, 2016 CID Share Posted February 20, 2016 On 10/10/2014 at 6:22 PM, nanobot said: I'm referring to the fact that Windows is practically the de-facto standard for PC's and Laptops anymore. Yes, you have Apple/OS X computers. Yes, you have Android/Chromebook computers. Yes, you have Linux computers. But due to the fact that the majority of Corporate America uses the Windows OS for their Desktop and Laptop devices it has become second nature to use it. It's more difficult for people to switch from a Windows Device to a Mac or Linux device than it is the other way around, because at some point in their life they were almost certainly forced to use a Windows PC. Thanks, EBrown I've come to understand the fact although corporate offices generally use windows, the better part of these users don't even deal with a desktop while not at work. Now they are stuck on their handheld devices after hours. This is, and will negate Microsoft market share. Just my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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