insideout Posted May 29, 2006 Author CID Share Posted May 29, 2006 so heat pipes are actually good? Then is it my heat pipe that isn't working? Oh and about installing a heat sink or a fan...does that require a lot of pc knowledge? i'm not good at computers (obviously). oh and do you need to install both of them or just one of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted May 29, 2006 CID Share Posted May 29, 2006 i haven't the faintes idea how sony sets up the case. it might be you have a heatsink leading to the heatpipe leading to the back of the case to another heatsink that is cooled by a slow running fan. at this point i would be sending an email to the support at sony or calling them to find out just how fast that fan should be spinning to decide wether or not to replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted May 29, 2006 CID Share Posted May 29, 2006 Well, that was random. dlewis23:Heatpipes are quite efficient, the best heatsinks for air use them and they get heat output similiar to cheap/medium watercooling. yes they are very efficient, but they are very inefficient when there is no cool air moving accorst them to extract the heat out of the pipe. Sony has very little if any air moving accrost the heat pipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insideout Posted May 29, 2006 Author CID Share Posted May 29, 2006 I called up SONY and I told them that my computer's temperature. The guy booted up his own computer and said that his temperatures were around the same range so he said that it was normal. I also told him the speed of my fan (i looked in the bios and it said it was like 840 RPM). he said this was normal as well so i can't get it replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted May 29, 2006 CID Share Posted May 29, 2006 so take a look at the case and see if there is a larger diameter fan blowing over a heatsink that is fed by heatpipes from the cpu. that would explain the lower rpm. you can always replace that fan with a more powerful one to cool it down more and/or install additional fans into the case to improve overall ventilation, if you have spots to mount them that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted May 29, 2006 CID Share Posted May 29, 2006 I called up SONY and I told them that my computer's temperature. The guy booted up his own computer and said that his temperatures were around the same range so he said that it was normal. I also told him the speed of my fan (i looked in the bios and it said it was like 840 RPM). he said this was normal as well so i can't get it replaced. 840RPM is not normal. thats almost no air movement. we have one of these or one that is very close to yours at my office and i will take a look at it and see what the temp and fan speed is when i go there tommarow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted May 29, 2006 CID Share Posted May 29, 2006 Seems like the speed is automatically regulated, and I could get this 120mm to do 840 rpm and have decent temps (45c or so), but if that ain't a 120 mm fan then it's virtually no airflow indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted May 29, 2006 CID Share Posted May 29, 2006 RTB I'm pertty sure they are 80mm or 90mm fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markie09 Posted May 29, 2006 CID Share Posted May 29, 2006 where do u go to tell all that stuff like the temps and the rpm's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted May 29, 2006 CID Share Posted May 29, 2006 where do u go to tell all that stuff like the temps and the rpm's? into the BIOS of your pc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PeePs Posted May 30, 2006 CID Share Posted May 30, 2006 where do u go to tell all that stuff like the temps and the rpm's? or you can download software that will tell you. Just google it and there will be plenty that turn up. As for your cooling problems. Sounds to me like your best option would be to just get more case fans or upgrade that slow *** one they already have in it. Gotta have airflow going through your case to keep things cool. Also, just so you know if you do end up adding a new heatsink/fan onto your cpu then it will more than likely terminate your warrenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAINMAKA Posted May 30, 2006 CID Share Posted May 30, 2006 i use motherboard monitor and it is pretty good. gives various temperatures and voltages and fan speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insideout Posted May 30, 2006 Author CID Share Posted May 30, 2006 I used Everest free edition to find out. About adding fans/heatsinks, I asked the guy and he said that it won't void the warranty if you add in parts (like a harddrive or fan) but you can't tamper with the cooling system itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted May 30, 2006 CID Share Posted May 30, 2006 About adding fans/heatsinks, I asked the guy and he said that it won't void the warranty if you add in parts (like a harddrive or fan) but you can't tamper with the cooling system itself. that sounds really stupid, they say there system is upgrade able, but if you add anything it voids the warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indestructable Posted May 30, 2006 CID Share Posted May 30, 2006 oh come on, that's bull stupid ass tech support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted May 30, 2006 CID Share Posted May 30, 2006 that means you can ad fans, you just have to leave the heatsink system uin place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insideout Posted June 1, 2006 Author CID Share Posted June 1, 2006 840RPM is not normal. thats almost no air movement. we have one of these or one that is very close to yours at my office and i will take a look at it and see what the temp and fan speed is when i go there tommarow. so did you manage to see what temp and fan speed the computer your office has? just curious to see what you found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insideout Posted July 8, 2006 Author CID Share Posted July 8, 2006 hey guys I know i haven't responded to this thread in a while but I'm still having cooling problems. I decided to open it up and see how much space I had. I took some pics hoping that someone could tell me what kind of fan I should get and how big or small it should be. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted July 8, 2006 CID Share Posted July 8, 2006 hey guys I know i haven't responded to this thread in a while but I'm still having cooling problems. I decided to open it up and see how much space I had. I took some pics hoping that someone could tell me what kind of fan I should get and how big or small it should be. Thanks. the problem is were would you put the fan, there is like no pratical place to put a fan in there, unless you cut a hole at the top and had it pushing the hot air out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soongteck Posted July 8, 2006 CID Share Posted July 8, 2006 for i just used everest to scan my computer's temperature. here are the results. Field Value Sensor Properties Sensor Type SMSC EMC6D103 (SMBus 2Eh) Temperatures Motherboard 53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommie gorman Posted July 8, 2006 CID Share Posted July 8, 2006 unless you cut a hole at the top and had it pushing the hot air out. Aren't holesaws great. Just had to do that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insideout Posted July 8, 2006 Author CID Share Posted July 8, 2006 the problem is were would you put the fan, there is like no pratical place to put a fan in there, unless you cut a hole at the top and had it pushing the hot air out. oh i see. I was thinking that myself about why there wasn't a lot of space. So do I have any other options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted July 9, 2006 CID Share Posted July 9, 2006 looks like a BTX case... The entire design behind this case was to eliminate overheating of the prescott p4s... lol that is if this is a btx.. which to me it look like from the pictures.. The tech support guy would be correct.. you would void your warrenty if you mess with the cooling system.. as it is now part of "system".. I sounds like from what I have read it has a passive cooling system, on the processor, to begin with.. Heat pipes. You could do a few things.. I would look for a fan to replace the system fans that are pushing air through that tunnel.. something that move more cfp.. http://www.frozencpu.com/fan-22.html that should do the trick if you need a 120mm fan.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted July 9, 2006 CID Share Posted July 9, 2006 insideout is the powersupply fan blowing air into the case or is it blowing air up in the power supply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted July 10, 2006 CID Share Posted July 10, 2006 i think BTX is designed to blow in to the tunnel and then out the back.. if I remember the air moves into the front notch in the case.. past the heatpipes.. then out the back. so no hot air is introduced into the case from the power supply.. Might want to make sure that there is plenty of circulation in the back where that case sits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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