o3Nicky Posted July 17, 2006 CID Share Posted July 17, 2006 Can one of you geniuses tell me what's going on here? What is 192.205.33.186, at the 10th hop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted July 17, 2006 CID Share Posted July 17, 2006 What is 192.205.33.186, at the 10th hop? well its most likey just another router, its outside your ISP so that is why the ping is so high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o3Nicky Posted July 17, 2006 Author CID Share Posted July 17, 2006 Is it possible that this outside router was purposely inserted into the middle of the route to spike the ping? How would one remove this problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted July 17, 2006 CID Share Posted July 17, 2006 Is it possible that this outside router was purposely inserted into the middle of the route to spike the ping? no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o3Nicky Posted July 17, 2006 Author CID Share Posted July 17, 2006 How could one avoid this problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted July 17, 2006 CID Share Posted July 17, 2006 How could one avoid this problem? you cant, that is were your taffic is being routed through. if you run a trace route to a different address does the same thing happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o3Nicky Posted July 17, 2006 Author CID Share Posted July 17, 2006 if you run a trace route to a different address does the same thing happen. No. The user in the screenshot pings fine to other servers... Thx for the help by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just- Posted July 17, 2006 CID Share Posted July 17, 2006 Tracing route to 192.205.33.186 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 17 ms 20 ms 20 ms lo0-plusnet.ptn-ag2.plus.net [195.166.128.53] 3 386 ms 15 ms 17 ms ge1-0-0-204.ptn-gw1.plus.net [84.92.3.105] 4 15 ms 17 ms 19 ms ge-4-1.metro2-londencyh00.London1.Level3.net [21 2.113.11.41] 5 34 ms 31 ms 31 ms so-1-2-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.0.118] 6 18 ms 19 ms 21 ms ae-0-54.bbr2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.98] 7 84 ms 82 ms 82 ms as-0-0.bbr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.128.106] 8 84 ms 84 ms 88 ms ae-13-51.car3.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.97.18] 9 85 ms 86 ms 84 ms ggr2-p360.n54ny.ip.att.net [192.205.33.93] 10 86 ms 86 ms 88 ms tbr1-p032501.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.0.90] 11 ggr1-p360.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.0.57] reports: Destination host unreachable. odd that u go via that router it should really route somewher eelse try contacting att and tell them they got some problem in their routing was just joking, but no u cant control where ur packed go after the 1st hop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o3Nicky Posted July 17, 2006 Author CID Share Posted July 17, 2006 Can someone else intrude? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shug7272 Posted July 17, 2006 CID Share Posted July 17, 2006 I just came in cause you said geniuses and I was hoping someone would mistake me for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coknuck Posted July 17, 2006 CID Share Posted July 17, 2006 This is what I get from Kentucky Tracing route to cod.onfyre.net [8.2.0.172] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 * * * Request timed out. 2 11 ms 10 ms 12 ms 74.128.19.241 3 13 ms 11 ms 12 ms 74.128.16.85 4 22 ms 13 ms 14 ms 74.128.8.97 5 24 ms 26 ms 23 ms so-7-1-0.gar2.Atlanta1.Level3.net [4.78.214.17] 6 23 ms 32 ms * ae-32-54.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net [4.68.103.126] 7 66 ms 27 ms * ae-1.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net [4.69.132.33] 8 46 ms 43 ms 45 ms ae-3.ebr1.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.132.81] 9 45 ms 42 ms 57 ms ae-12-55.car2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.122.142] 10 43 ms 45 ms 42 ms 8.2.0.172 Trace complete. C:Documents and SettingsKathleen> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just- Posted July 17, 2006 CID Share Posted July 17, 2006 Can someone else intrude? what do u mean ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlewis23 Posted July 17, 2006 CID Share Posted July 17, 2006 this is what i get when i run a trace to it. C:Documents and SettingsDonovan M. Lewis>tracert 192.205.33.186 Tracing route to 192.205.33.186 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 11 ms * 9 ms 65.14.252.1 3 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms 65.14.254.93 4 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms 66.156.253.25 5 10 ms 11 ms 10 ms 65.83.237.136 6 11 ms 10 ms 14 ms 65.83.236.11 7 13 ms 9 ms 10 ms 65.83.236.20 8 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms 65.57.174.1 9 24 ms 72 ms 23 ms 4.68.112.45 10 41 ms 42 ms 42 ms 4.68.128.210 11 40 ms 40 ms 42 ms 4.68.121.144 12 42 ms 42 ms 42 ms 4.68.127.154 13 44 ms 43 ms 43 ms 12.123.8.114 14 12.123.8.153 reports: Destination host unreachable. Trace complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o3Nicky Posted July 18, 2006 Author CID Share Posted July 18, 2006 Can you guys ping cod.onfyre.net ? How come I've never had to go through a router like (192.205.xx.xxx) to get anywhere? It seems like it shouldn't be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted July 18, 2006 CID Share Posted July 18, 2006 192.205.33.186 OrgName: AT&T Bell Laboratories OrgID: ATT Address: 3200 Lake Emma Road City: Lake Mary StateProv: FL PostalCode: 32746 Country: US NetRange: 192.205.0.0 - 192.205.255.255 CIDR: 192.205.0.0/16 NetName: NETBLK-ATT NetHandle: NET-192-205-0-0-1 Parent: NET-192-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: OHCU.OH.MT.NP.ELS-GMS.ATT.NET NameServer: WYCU.WY.BR.NP.ELS-GMS.ATT.NET NameServer: MACU.MA.MT.NP.ELS-GMS.ATT.NET Comment: RegDate: 1992-08-03 Updated: 1997-11-04 RTechHandle: JD2290-ARIN RTechName: Davis, John RTechPhone: +1-513-352-7285 RTechEmail: [email protected] OrgTechHandle: IAA8-ARIN OrgTechName: IP Address Administrator OrgTechPhone: +1-407-805-7323 OrgTechEmail: [email protected] ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2006-05-27 19:10 Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. and shug7272, you ARE A genius, but don't tell anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted July 18, 2006 CID Share Posted July 18, 2006 Can you guys ping cod.onfyre.net ? How come I've never had to go through a router like (192.205.xx.xxx) to get anywhere? It seems like it shouldn't be there. OrgName: Level 3 Communications, Inc. OrgID: LVLT Address: 1025 Eldorado Blvd. City: Broomfield StateProv: CO PostalCode: 80021 Country: US NetRange: 8.0.0.0 - 8.255.255.255 CIDR: 8.0.0.0/8 NetName: LVLT-ORG-8-8 NetHandle: NET-8-0-0-0-1 Parent: NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: NS1.LEVEL3.NET NameServer: NS2.LEVEL3.NET Comment: RegDate: Updated: 2004-06-04 OrgAbuseHandle: APL8-ARIN OrgAbuseName: Abuse POC LVLT OrgAbusePhone: +1-877-453-8353 OrgAbuseEmail: [email protected] OrgTechHandle: ARINC4-ARIN OrgTechName: ARIN Contact OrgTechPhone: +1-800-436-8489 OrgTechEmail: [email protected] OrgTechHandle: TPL1-ARIN OrgTechName: Tech POC LVLT OrgTechPhone: +1-877-453-8353 OrgTechEmail: [email protected] ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2006-07-16 19:10 Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o3Nicky Posted July 18, 2006 Author CID Share Posted July 18, 2006 What's that mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted July 18, 2006 CID Share Posted July 18, 2006 it's just a router, you wanted it traced, it's nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
php Posted July 18, 2006 CID Share Posted July 18, 2006 Why do you think it shouldn't be there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o3Nicky Posted July 18, 2006 Author CID Share Posted July 18, 2006 By router, do you mean it's a home router? I don't think it should be there because I believe someone is packeting this user. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted July 18, 2006 CID Share Posted July 18, 2006 It's a routing point for your ISP, it's normal for them to have up to 30 of them, they go everywhere after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
php Posted July 18, 2006 CID Share Posted July 18, 2006 By router, do you mean it's a home router? I don't think it should be there because I believe someone is packeting this user. I don't understand that last part... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted July 18, 2006 CID Share Posted July 18, 2006 I don't understand that last part... it's ok, I dont either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallowEarth Posted July 18, 2006 CID Share Posted July 18, 2006 What it looks like to me is a bad link between 2 routers (12.123.6.37 & 192.205.33.186) within the AT&T network. This usually indicates that there is some load balancing occuring, which usually means that some devices are down due to maintenance. This sort of thing usually clears up within 48 hours. I would suggest performing another trace after 48 hours, and if this is not cleared up by then, call your ISP. On occassion, my ISP has not helped me with similar issues, because after a certain point, they will claim that it is outside of their network. In this instance, you would have to contact the NOC of the network directly. WaterRTBH has provided their contact from the WHOIS information. Just provide them with a trace. But be sure to give it enough time to rule out a maintenance window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water Posted July 18, 2006 CID Share Posted July 18, 2006 What it looks like to me is a bad link between 2 routers (12.123.6.37 & 192.205.33.186) within the AT&T network. This usually indicates that there is some load balancing occuring, which usually means that some devices are down due to maintenance. This sort of thing usually clears up within 48 hours. I would suggest performing another trace after 48 hours, and if this is not cleared up by then, call your ISP. On occassion, my ISP has not helped me with similar issues, because after a certain point, they will claim that it is outside of their network. In this instance, you would have to contact the NOC of the network directly. WaterRTBH has provided their contact from the WHOIS information. Just provide them with a trace. But be sure to give it enough time to rule out a maintenance window. You made me look smart, I want to hump your leg now any luck yet o3Nicky ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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