wingzero2309 Posted September 2, 2005 CID Share Posted September 2, 2005 I just got a Dell Inspiron 9300 for just under 1500, near 1600 after taxes + a free printer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyrag Posted September 2, 2005 Author CID Share Posted September 2, 2005 Ok To sum it all here are the ones I have found that I guess I can get it shipped to PR. Except the one from Buy.com. Also i want the laptop with a good moderate vid card since im not planning to buy a desktop for now. Also im studying comp Engineer soo i guess a laptop is much better than a new desktop. I dont want to go for more than $1500.00 neither but i dont want to waste neither on a crappy laptop. my other new question would be if its worth it to buy a laptop at this time ? I mean because of everything going up and because of Windows Vista in the near future that will be 64 bit. here it is what i have found around : Costco.com Intel Pentium 4 530 w/HT 3GHz 1GB DDR2 SDRAM, 533MHz (2x512mb) 60GB 5400 RPM hard drive DVD writter with double layer 256mb ATI mobility RADEON X600 54g 802.11 b/g WLAN w/ 125HSM 17.0" WxGA+ brightview Wide Viewing (1440x900) Microsoft xp with SP2 Microsoft works Money 12 Cell Lithium Ion Battery for the price of = $1469.99 TigerDirect.com HP/Compaq nx6125 AMD Turion 64 Processor ML-34 1.8GHz / 802.11a-b-g Wireless / Bluetooth / 15-inch SXGA+ / 1GB DDR / 60GB HDD / DVD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted September 2, 2005 CID Share Posted September 2, 2005 Umm.. they are compairable.. some what.. a 1.8 pentium m will run about as fast as a 2.8-3.0 p4.. that isnt bad.. I have not seen any of the numbers for the AMD platform yet.. My vote is for the HP- zd8000 series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kamil234 Posted September 2, 2005 CID Share Posted September 2, 2005 wow...so how fast does the AMD64 FX-57 run compared to P4?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGODl337 Posted September 2, 2005 CID Share Posted September 2, 2005 a shit load faster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted September 2, 2005 CID Share Posted September 2, 2005 wow...so how fast does the AMD64 FX-57 run compared to P4?? This is what I am going off.. http://www.behardware.com/articles/546-5/pentium-m-dfi-855gme-mgf.html It isnt exact.. you are compairing a moble chip against Intel's flag ship.. Here is a good as of right now Tom's doesnt have the 57 up yet.. but against a 55 the 3.72 EE does beat the 55 in the Sandra CPU tests.. http://www23.tomshardware.com/index.html?modelx=33&model1=57&model2=18&chart=4 Change the benchmark to gaming.. and prepair for an attack of the AMD chips.. The only intel chip up high is the 570..which is 3.8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGODl337 Posted September 2, 2005 CID Share Posted September 2, 2005 maximum pc has constantly tested this and other variations amd usually wins in most of the categories Edit: i also heard tomhardware.com of being bias don't know for myself though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted September 2, 2005 CID Share Posted September 2, 2005 It is hard to tell.. Maximum pc is heavy amd.. just about every system they build is amd.. but that is also what the high end market is currently using.. Tom's seems pretty fair.. they tend to do what ever is big at the time.. I havent seen all that much Intel on there lately.. There is no doubt that AMD is the gamers choice.. I agree with you 100%.. again.. however, in desktop apps.. most of the time intel will take the cookie.. but just by a little bit.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGODl337 Posted September 2, 2005 CID Share Posted September 2, 2005 that really depends on the apps things like vid and pic editing sure intel is better but for small apps where u don't need as much processing power the amd's responsiveness makes it a far better choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted September 3, 2005 CID Share Posted September 3, 2005 that really depends on the apps things like vid and pic editing sure intel is better but for small apps where u don't need as much processing power the amd's responsiveness makes it a far better choice That is true.. but you are not going to notice it all that much on stuff like the system calculator.. or ms office... AMD is starting to take over the compression test.. winrar, lame, and divx.. all have strong amd at the top or second.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyrag Posted September 3, 2005 Author CID Share Posted September 3, 2005 Talked with a friend of mine and looked at this post, saw that Dell offer and told me that i should get the Dell. is it really worth it the zd8000 vs this Dell 9300? edit. I found a cheaper dell because theres a Promo On Puerto Rico =O!!! Intel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGODl337 Posted September 3, 2005 CID Share Posted September 3, 2005 you might be surprised at how much a difference it will make in apps like word, excel, ect. maybe not so much while the app is running but when its still opening having an amd will make more than a noiceable difference krazyrag that dell is a hell of a rip off don't bother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted September 3, 2005 CID Share Posted September 3, 2005 if dell isnt running a promo.. then i wouldnt bother.. it does have a faster gpu and bigger screen.. but that the systems are almost the same in performance.. Even though I am a dell fan i would stick with the HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingzero2309 Posted September 3, 2005 CID Share Posted September 3, 2005 Talked with a friend of mine and looked at this post, saw that Dell offer and told me that i should get the Dell. is it really worth it the zd8000 vs this Dell 9300? Intel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyrag Posted September 3, 2005 Author CID Share Posted September 3, 2005 about the ram thingy, i cant open my laptop when i buy it from them no? i have to wait what... 1 year till waranty ends? i prefer bying to them than wait that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked Rain Posted September 3, 2005 CID Share Posted September 3, 2005 i have the ZD8000 series laptop, it rules, I love it. I get 3,400 in 3dmark03 I get 1,900 in 3dmark05 50 fps in garrys mod full settings. The go does not kick the x600's ass in the least. The benchmarks for doom 3 on high settings were 27 fps for the x600, and 33 for the Go 6600 or whatever the top GO model is. All NVDIA cards play a bit player on doom 3 then ATI. Some benchmarks of the go ranged around 1,500 to 1,900 in 3dmark05. In all technicalitys they are about equal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmer Posted September 3, 2005 CID Share Posted September 3, 2005 about the ram thingy, i cant open my laptop when i buy it from them no? i have to wait what... 1 year till waranty ends? i prefer bying to them than wait that much. memory upgrades do not affect the warrenty.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked Rain Posted September 3, 2005 CID Share Posted September 3, 2005 See most laptops only have two areas to put in the ram, and the ram that is currently in it is dual channel mode occupied by two 256MB sticks. So you cannot simply add ram, you have to "replace it". So in replacing I would make sure you max it out to 2 gb OF DUAL channel ram (expensive but when upgrading dual channel ram it is a must). You still would lose the orginal 512 or whatever it is. Sell it to a friend MB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilatedpeoples28 Posted September 4, 2005 CID Share Posted September 4, 2005 Wicked rain i dont kno wtf ur talking about a go6800 vs. x600???????? u gotta be kidding me, 6800 would SMOKE IT in doom 3 and everything else. That is saying that both notebooks have similar cpu's and ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyrag Posted September 4, 2005 Author CID Share Posted September 4, 2005 hmmm... if memory upgrade doesnt affect the waranty then ill buy it with that 512mb of ram ;o thanks for the help guys =D edit. Hmmm now i am a bit worried about that new 64bit thingy. thats the new thing that will come when Windows Vista comes out, The Pentium M isnt 64 bit but the amd is.... would it be more convinient to get the 64bit support for the future OS,programs and sacrifice a little the video card or not? i mean, i worked hard for those $1,500.00 im willing to spent on a laptop to just go away in like 2 years >.>.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptors892004 Posted September 4, 2005 CID Share Posted September 4, 2005 what kind of things do you want to do with the laptop? games or work related stuff.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyrag Posted September 4, 2005 Author CID Share Posted September 4, 2005 both? XD i dont know if im going to be a game adict because i dont have a gamming dekstop, on the time my pc was new i played kawaks and other emulator games and i liked it. some AOE,empire earth too and games my friends lend me. then came my ps2 fever and left the pc for download anime and music and do work sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptors892004 Posted September 4, 2005 CID Share Posted September 4, 2005 Well, AMD's are useful for both.. They are more responsive and have higher fsb speeds, but are slower than most new Intel processors in 32bit mode, which would maybe be a disadvantage with 32 bit programs and games.. If you get a 64bit processor, you should also get the 64bit windows, but I would think you should go with the AMD processors, cuz many other ppl think so too(e.g.: 32 bit processors have max of 4GB mem for OS and programs; 64 bit ones have 16 billion GB available (in 64bit mode) .. I read it off some site about 32 and 64 bit cpu comparison).. But that's up to you, cuz you have to find a new video card if you want the AMD as you said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indestructable Posted September 4, 2005 CID Share Posted September 4, 2005 you wanna go with toshiba? http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cmod.to?seg=HHO&coid=-28641&sel=0&rcid=-26367&ccid=1291021 nice baby.. or: http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cmod.to?seg=HHO&coid=-28641&sel=0&rcid=-26367&ccid=1291021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyrag Posted September 4, 2005 Author CID Share Posted September 4, 2005 hmmm this thing is really tricky...... i saw a post that got me thinking about how truth it is. Quick and painless way to explain the mathematics about a 64-Bit processor. However, purchasing a computer with a 64-Bit processor today has additional advantages and disadvantages. For example, a disadvantage is that - Moore's Law - Computing power doubles every 18 months, therefore by the time the software vendors migrate from 32-bit to 64-bit the computing power for utilizing that software will be larger (and you're new processor will be obsolete). and no thanks Indestructable, that Dell offer i saw is better. thanks for the help anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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