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... I'm such an MS hater these days. But seriously... am I wrong? It's like they're trying to get in the way of their own success anymore. My father-in-law just got a Levono Win8 craptop. Nice specs, touchscreen - i7... blah blah blah ...I couldn't even get it to do anything. Wouldn't connect to my wifi I assume because it wasn't registered but to register you needed the wifi. Seriously MS, do you have marbles for brains? It had a telephone registration but I looked at him and said, "Come on dude! Just trust me and get a Mac! You'd get it, open the box and be ready to rock in like 60 seconds." -- he gave in and took that craptop back. I'm not saying it was a bad laptop, it had potential. But the operating system was seriously holding it back. I have like 5 wifi networks in my house... I also created TestMy.net so I'm pretty sure that I know how to get a computer on the Internet. It just said "Limited Connectivity" on every network and kept asking to register over the Internet! lol hello! catch 22! He was thinking of putting Windows 7 on it... okay, so now we have to buy new laptops and spend more money to put 4 year-old operating system on them. Yeah, that seems really efficient... efficient for Microsoft's pocket! My brother-in-law didn't listen and got a PC which came with Windows 7 and Toshiba gave him a free upgrade to Win8. He upgraded and none of his stuff worked anymore. The backlight to his keyboard, the function keys... important hardware stuff just simply wasn't supported even though Toshiba told him it was totally supported. He also was getting errors and freezes all over the place. He went back down to Win7 and is happy now. What a headache though. Could have saved ALL of that time and effort and got an Apple to start with. All that time on the phone dealing with that BS, could have been spent smelling roses or finding a cure for cancer. I dunno, just not on a tech support call. Microsoft will figure themselves out. They need to stop trying to be different and cool and get back to the core of what made them popular. One windows device that I thought was awesome. The Nokia Lumia 1020, however I haven't played with one. I'm sure that it feels retarded being a Windows phone but the camera is insane. 41MP and a real xenon flash. Does it perform well as a phone, I don't know. But that sensor, 41MP... let's put that in perspective... the Hubble Telescope has 64X less resolution. It has so much resolution that you can digitally zoom 4X and still have lossless 1080P quality. Too bad they ruined it all up and put it on a windows phone. -- still, an amazing jump in technology for sure. After he got his Macbook Pro (which was maybe a couple hundred more than the other laptop). It booted up and he was on the Internet within I'd say... 90 seconds (so I was wrong... it wasn't 60 seconds, lol). I put in his info, installed MS Office and synced his iPhone for the first time... he's been glued to it ever since. He thought there was going to be a huge learning curve but in reality it just works how you'd expect it to so I think he's really happy with his choice. He'll have far less headaches and be more productive for sure. If you're in the market for a new computer. Choose the one with an OS that's leading the way into the future... not the one that wastes your life with technical issues. I'll leave it up to you which is which. ... and remember, saving money is only saving money if it doesn't waste time.