well i'm in Asia, Indonesia, Bali specifically.....in here other isp are the same...in fact isp i'm using now is cheaper than others....dial up cost USD 3 to USD 5/hour...crazy huh :haha: if i upgrade to 128/32...i think it'll be a waste if fiber comes in so i'll wait and in the mean time all i can do is enjoy my crap connection, make fun of my friend's dial up and envy you guys....especially Van Buren :haha: