My sentiments exactly, BTW once again, whats kedwon stand for? We all have opinions on this ,Some much more educated than others, and all should express them. At the same token this will be our downfall, Just go back and read each post, all of us may get along just fine , until these things that REALLY don't have anything to do W/ the way life should be, I understand "things cant be perfect", Or these posts now were bickering like a bunch of pissant anarchists. Shit ! one more thing ..take 5 seconds from your opinions . just five... stop and think of how YOU felt around noon , 9-11-01, I know it occurred before then, but once it settled W/ you , and your girl was crying or guy. Not to dwell, but answer youself this question. really think....... Did it feel good? yes?