CA3LE Posted Sunday at 07:45 PM CID Share Posted Sunday at 07:45 PM Over the decades I've always strived to have the fastest servers I can afford to host TestMy.net. My journey with hosting has taken me into a colocated datacenter where I pay for cabinet space, power & internet connection and bring in my own equipment. When I first started using colo I built everything out with brand new, current generation servers and networking gear. Over the years I added servers and built up a High Availability Proxmox cluster. Adding servers I found that eBay was definitely my friend. Now I could afford servers that only a few years earlier often went for nearly 10X what I was able to get them for "off lease". Each time I added a new server, it was more powerful than the previous. Over this time I'm adding more resources, things are getting faster. Even my first servers were full solid state, employing arrays of 4 Samsung 850 Pro SSDs. But things really started flying with the advent of Optane storage. A game changer... really, it was too good. (and now it's gone.) Fast forward to 2024. I get a generous donation of servers, the person doesn't care what I do with them, they're just happy to give them to me. They're newer than my servers, 2nd version into the next generation of CPU. So quite a bit newer. I get one of them setup with the same Optane storage I run in my current master server and start benchmarking. It's not really faster and doesn't justify switching servers. Sometimes it was slower. I assume because my servers are higher clock speed, highest end of the CPU SKU. Scratching my head, I really thought being so much newer I'd get a much better result. I take the storage out and pop it in a gaming rig... another machine recently donated to me by a friend. This PC happens to have hardware from the same year as the server I just tested. I run the same tests and had to do a double take. Not only was it faster on the gaming rig, it was WAY faster. This made me reimagine my server topology. Maybe it was time to build with consumer hardware. Here I had a setup that was a fraction of the cost that was out performing in real world scenarios. The better single thread performance and higher clock speed, faster memory... it all makes sense. There's more competition in the consumer market, things cost less. So I sold those servers to someone who can better utilize their resources. Extremely nice servers but for my use case here, they had too much of everything. As soon as they were sold I ordered parts for my next build. Promptly put it together and got to testing. Minimum, 2.5x faster at everything. Average is 3x faster and in some cases I've seen over 6x faster. It has completely blown me away. What is the magical setup? Nothing much really, minus storage I think it cost my about $900, including a piKVM setup to remotely control the machine. Much less than any of my used enterprise servers cost me. Here's my build. AMD Ryzen 7 9700X 8-Core, 16-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series (Intel XMP 3.0) DDR5 RAM 64GB (2x32GB) 5600MT/s CL28-34-34-89 Optane 905p (zpool) and Samsung 960 Pro (OS) ASUS Prime B650-PLUS WiFi ID-COOLING IS-40-XT Black - 47mm Height Low Profile CPU Cooler EVGA 750 BP, 80+ Bronze 750W PSU Rosewill 2U Server Chassis RSV-Z2900U BTF-LIGHTING WS2812B 2PCs 19in Individually Addressable 2GB Raspberry pi4 Geekworm KVM-A8 (kit for building a piKVM) 10G network card It's only a 65 watt TDP CPU! very easy to cool in a constrained (or SFF) build like this. A single half dollar sized CPU out performs all of my dual Xeon systems. Yes, I can't run a terabyte of RAM with this setup but I don't need to. My current systems are 128GB, I figure I only really really need 64GB with this CPU backing the system. Especially in single thread performance the new Ryzen system blows all my other systems away. This type of gain will be felt everywhere, especially in mysql queries and responsiveness. It still excels in multithread and even has a larger cache than my Xeons. It really wins for me on every level. And yes, RGB was a requirement. I never put RGB in a computer, not really my thing. But I figure this is a gaming PC at its core so for $13, why not. I can control them in linux but it adds a bunch of unnecessary packages, I like my base PVE to be as simple as possible. So default rainbow it is. lambo-2025-lq2.mp4 I haven't been necessarily doing it wrong all these years. Without the low TDP and high performance of the 9700X this build would be more challenging. These are recent developments. There's basically zero redundancy in this server. So, it also helps having a PVE cluster that has a bunch of reliable machines, to back up this consumer grade hardware. I can't wait to bring Lambo into production! mudmanc4, xs1 and Frank225 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank225 Posted yesterday at 08:06 AM CID Share Posted yesterday at 08:06 AM Amazing and cool ! A Life time dream. Thanks for posting I was a fan of AMD, they are excellent and less expensive than Intel. The chinese already have 7nm chips. The 3B6600, for example, is claimed to perform at par with Intel 12th—and 13th-generation CPUs thanks to its new eight LA864 cores with a clock frequency of just 3 GHz My family PC for Gaming have I7 8700K recommeded at the time by Tom´s Hardware. I am not a gamer and my 2023, ASUS Notebook have Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9750H CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.59 GHz RAM: 16,0 GB Graphic card 8 GB SSD: 952GB Display 15.6" 240Hz 3ms G SYNC Pantone colors Windows 11 PORT 1 Gbps. USB adaptor 2,5Gbps My favourite F1 team was Williams https://www.formula1.com/en/information/williams-year-by-year.6wHlJglT3USpmIbETtAYzW Ferrari is beautiful and have long history Cheers CA3LE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA3LE Posted yesterday at 08:17 AM Author CID Share Posted yesterday at 08:17 AM 7 minutes ago, Frank225 said: The chinese already have 7nm chips. Check this out, the Ryzen 7 9700X is built on a 4 nm production process using 8,315 million transistors. I don't feel like it's getting the love it deserves. The latest AMD chips are truly amazing. Frank225 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank225 Posted yesterday at 08:56 AM CID Share Posted yesterday at 08:56 AM I have stoped making my home computers at the time of AMD Sempron 2400, 2600, 2800. ASUS Motherboard, The Windows was 98 or XP, kaspersky antivirus Kingstom RAM, Seagate and Western Digital Disk. ASRock motherboard are good and might be less expensive 4nm might be made in Taiwain or Malaysia Poliovirus has a diameter of 30 nm, Flu - about 100 nm Thank you for update, keep on rocking. Led Zepelling - Stairway to Heaven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xs1 Posted 14 hours ago CID Share Posted 14 hours ago @CA3LE what are you running for a GPU in that rig? or AGPU...> My setup is pretty dated.. i just dont use the pc much anymore so I haven't really sunk any money into upgrades (especially the platform) in many years.. ASUS Prime X370-Pro AM4 ATX Motherboard AMD RYZEN 7 1700 8-Core Base Clock 3.0GHz OC @ 4.1 GHz NZXT KRAKEN X73 RGB 360MM AIO LIQUID COOLER W/LCD DISPLAY G.SKILL TridentZ RGB 32GB 288 Pin DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz XFX QICK 319 AMD Radeon RX 6800 16GB CORSAIR HXi Series HX1200i 1200W 80 PLUS PLATINUM Full Modular Thermaltake Core P5 ATX Open Frame Panoramic Viewing Tt LCS Certified Gaming Computer Case CA3LE and Frank225 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA3LE Posted 13 hours ago Author CID Share Posted 13 hours ago Just the integrated GPU. It's a virtual machine server with no need for GPU. I only need graphics to get into the bios, set up the machine and remotely manage at the base machine level. If I ever have a need for GPU I run it on one of my local machines. This puppy is built for a very specific workload. Will be racked at the datacenter in a few days. Just waiting on one more network card... Frank225 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank225 Posted 11 hours ago CID Share Posted 11 hours ago @CA3LE @xs1 hello I loved your machines! I think my family member have inexpensive homebrew PC tower to play games online with cheap GTX 1070, carbon mouse ($150), keybord, ($150) Asus 24" display 144 Hz, 1ms. CPU I7 8700K, ($400) 650W PS ? The first Internet speed was 200/100Mbps with a switch to reduce the bandwidth for better bufferbloat. The speed now is 1000/400Mbps (gift) to be loyal to MEO - Altice Company since 2017. Cellphone is Apple 14 pro. I don´t play games and have the old ASUS ROG Zephyrus M Thin Portable Gaming Laptop with: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Max-Q 8GB GDDR6 (Base 1080 MHz Boost 1305 MHz TDP 90W) Latest 9th Gen Intel Core i7-9750H Hexa-core Processor 240Hz 3ms 15 6” Full HD (1920x1080) IPS Type Pantone Validated Display 16GB DDR4 2666MHz RAM | 1TB PCIe SSD | Windows 10 Home | Gigabit Wave 2 Wi-Fi 5 (802 11ac 2x2) Ultra-slim 15’’ metal chassis gaming laptop 18 9mm thin 4 4poundss ROG Intelligent Cooling thermal system with dual 12V fans anti-dust technology and adjustable fan modes ROG Aura Sync System with RGB Keyboard My smartphones are Xiaomi and Samsung 5G, $200 (two hundred) each. take care https://gameserverping.com/ DSLReports is almost dead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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