organ_shifter Posted November 19, 2005 CID Share Posted November 19, 2005 Good news for FF users. ...whether you use IE or not - for example, Windows Media Player has a Firefox plugin. I also recently got a chance to play with a new Firefox plugin that simplifies and improves the Windows validation process on that browser... Read here: Microsoft Windows Genuine Advantage plugin now available for Firefox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netmasta Posted November 19, 2005 CID Share Posted November 19, 2005 I think there has been a WMP plug-in for FF for a while. Anyway, now only if M$ could make Windows Update available for FF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted November 19, 2005 CID Share Posted November 19, 2005 [glow=red,2,300]why should microsoft have to change anything? the microsoft update works just fine with ie, everyone that needs the microsoft updates has received a copy of ie. if they want to claim that firefox is so great, why don't they stop bitching about websites being designed for ie and not other browsers and instead go make their browser compatible with the industry standard. just because i like british sports cars and buy a classic with right hand drive doesn't mean that everyone else in the world suddenly has to change the way they build roads so that i don't have a disadvantage from my exotic choice in cars.[/glow] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netmasta Posted November 19, 2005 CID Share Posted November 19, 2005 The thing with Microsoft sites (zone.com, Windows Update, etc.) has nothing to do with industry standards. M$ sets it's own standards. Those sites don't work in other browsers because they use propertary technology like ActiveX. If another browser wanted to use ActiveX, they would probably have to pay some kind of fees. M$ doesn't like to share their technologr with others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted November 19, 2005 CID Share Posted November 19, 2005 and why should they. to my knowledge microsoft never claimed that their website, or other websites that decide to design for the leading browser to cover most bases, is completely compatible with other browsers. if someone decides to bring out a different browser, they need to ensure that their product works on everything, not vice versa. i would like to run my car on rails, but the roads here use the proprietary asphalt technology, so i have to keep my car on tires as it is. i can of course mount rail wheels and set up rails in my back yard and drive it there using that in my eye superior technology all i want, but i can't comlain that it doesn't work anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn0 Posted November 19, 2005 CID Share Posted November 19, 2005 I use FF 95% of the time. But, I know it is not 100% compatible with all sites. What I like about it is that someone wrote an IE extension for FF, and when I have these issues, I just click the Open in IE button, and walla, it opens in IE. Problem solved. I don't like or dislike either browser, but I DO like FF's tabbed browsing features.(more so than IE7 beta, so far) A couple FF cons for me: 1. Resource hog 2. Anything running Java ext (ie: weather radar) takes like 3 minutes to run. - annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywoodx954x Posted November 19, 2005 CID Share Posted November 19, 2005 ^^^ thats your computer. My old computer did the same problem and now i bought a brand new one and it opens instantly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn0 Posted November 19, 2005 CID Share Posted November 19, 2005 ^^^ thats your computer. My old computer did the same problem and now i bought a brand new one and it opens instantly I kind of figured that, I haven't really tried to improve it yet. PC is a 2.53GHz P4 with 1GB Ram. So must be something going on with software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyswhirl Posted November 19, 2005 CID Share Posted November 19, 2005 the time will come when those sites that use ms propertary technology will have to change or die kina like what is happening to ms html was not invented by gates -he just refuses to abide by any standard the company is on its deathbed and does not know it yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostmaster Posted November 19, 2005 CID Share Posted November 19, 2005 MS isnt going anywhere for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted November 19, 2005 CID Share Posted November 19, 2005 the time will come when those sites that use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organ_shifter Posted November 19, 2005 Author CID Share Posted November 19, 2005 I think there has been a WMP plug-in for FF for a while. Anyway, now only if M$ could make Windows Update available for FF. Yep, the WMP plugin has been around for a little while, but the Genuine Advantage plugin is a step in the right direction for users of the browser. I don't use FF though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shug7272 Posted November 20, 2005 CID Share Posted November 20, 2005 [glow=red,2,300]why should microsoft have to change anything? the microsoft update works just fine with ie, everyone that needs the microsoft updates has received a copy of ie. if they want to claim that firefox is so great, why don't they stop bitching about websites being designed for ie and not other browsers and instead go make their browser compatible with the industry standard. just because i like british sports cars and buy a classic with right hand drive doesn't mean that everyone else in the world suddenly has to change the way they build roads so that i don't have a disadvantage from my exotic choice in cars.[/glow] and why should they. to my knowledge microsoft never claimed that their website, or other websites that decide to design for the leading browser to cover most bases, is completely compatible with other browsers. if someone decides to bring out a different browser, they need to ensure that their product works on everything, not vice versa. i would like to run my car on rails, but the roads here use the proprietary asphalt technology, so i have to keep my car on tires as it is. i can of course mount rail wheels and set up rails in my back yard and drive it there using that in my eye superior technology all i want, but i can't comlain that it doesn't work anywhere else. :whip2: Down boy.. Down!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted November 20, 2005 CID Share Posted November 20, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shug7272 Posted November 20, 2005 CID Share Posted November 20, 2005 never seen that emoticon before... Guy like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallowEarth Posted November 20, 2005 CID Share Posted November 20, 2005 2. Anything running Java ext (ie: weather radar) takes like 3 minutes to run. - annoying. As far as I've gathered, FF has some trouble with embedded objects and scripts. ...and walla, it opens in IE. ...walla? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn0 Posted November 20, 2005 CID Share Posted November 20, 2005 As far as I've gathered, FF has some trouble with embedded objects and scripts. ...walla? OK teacher, how about voila! :haha: I guess it doesn't make much sense when I think about it. Have you heard of any fixes for the FF scripts, or am I just SOL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallowEarth Posted November 20, 2005 CID Share Posted November 20, 2005 OK teacher, how about voila! :haha: I guess it doesn't make much sense when I think about it. Have you heard of any fixes for the FF scripts, or am I just SOL? :haha: :haha: No, I haven't heard much of anything on the subject. There are some extensions I've seen, but I can't be bothered with them. Most of them don't do what they say they do, and many completely suck. That's the trouble with open source, you don't know when you got dummies writing for you. I like tweaking and configuring and personalizing my shit as much as the next geek, but there comes a point where I just throw my hands up and say fuck it. Some pages load great with FF, some load with problems, some don't load at all. I find myself just using IE instead of sorting through pages to find the right extension for the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn0 Posted November 20, 2005 CID Share Posted November 20, 2005 :haha: :haha: No, I haven't heard much of anything on the subject. There are some extensions I've seen, but I can't be bothered with them. Most of them don't do what they say they do, and many completely suck. That's the trouble with open source, you don't know when you got dummies writing for you. I like tweaking and configuring and personalizing my shit as much as the next geek, but there comes a point where I just throw my hands up and say fuck it. Some pages load great with FF, some load with problems, some don't load at all. I find myself just using IE instead of sorting through pages to find the right extension for the job. I only rarely have an issue with Firefox, that's when I hit the 'open in IE' button. BTW, my work PC has the same slow loading issue with java scripts, and it is 100% Microsoft. But, I'm not trying to fuel the FF vs IE fire, it doesn't really matter either way to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resopalrabotnick Posted November 20, 2005 CID Share Posted November 20, 2005 for the java problem, try reinstalling or updating the sun java runtime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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