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Over the decades I've always strived to have the fastest servers I can afford to host TestMy.net. My journey with hosting has taken me into a colocated datacenter where I pay for cabinet space, power & internet connection and bring in my own equipment. When I first started using colo I built everything out with brand new, current generation servers and networking gear. Over the years I added servers and built up a High Availability Proxmox cluster. Adding servers I found that eBay was definitely my friend. Now I could afford servers that only a few years earlier often went for nearly 10X what I was able to get them for "off lease". Each time I added a new server, it was more powerful than the previous. Over this time I'm adding more resources, things are getting faster. Even my first servers were full solid state, employing arrays of 4 Samsung 850 Pro SSDs. But things really started flying with the advent of Optane storage. A game changer... really, it was too good. (and now it's gone.) Fast forward to 2024. I get a generous donation of servers, the person doesn't care what I do with them, they're just happy to give them to me. They're newer than my servers, 2nd version into the next generation of CPU. So quite a bit newer. I get one of them setup with the same Optane storage I run in my current master server and start benchmarking. It's not really faster and doesn't justify switching servers. Sometimes it was slower. I assume because my servers are higher clock speed, highest end of the CPU SKU. Scratching my head, I really thought being so much newer I'd get a much better result. I take the storage out and pop it in a gaming rig... another machine recently donated to me by a friend. This PC happens to have hardware from the same year as the server I just tested. I run the same tests and had to do a double take. Not only was it faster on the gaming rig, it was WAY faster. This made me reimagine my server topology. Maybe it was time to build with consumer hardware. Here I had a setup that was a fraction of the cost that was out performing in real world scenarios. The better single thread performance and higher clock speed, faster memory... it all makes sense. There's more competition in the consumer market, things cost less. So I sold those servers to someone who can better utilize their resources. Extremely nice servers but for my use case here, they had too much of everything. As soon as they were sold I ordered parts for my next build. Promptly put it together and got to testing. Minimum, 2.5x faster at everything. Average is 3x faster and in some cases I've seen over 6x faster. It has completely blown me away. What is the magical setup? Nothing much really, minus storage I think it cost my about $900, including a piKVM setup to remotely control the machine. Much less than any of my used enterprise servers cost me. Here's my build. AMD Ryzen 7 9700X 8-Core, 16-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series (Intel XMP 3.0) DDR5 RAM 64GB (2x32GB) 5600MT/s CL28-34-34-89 Optane 905p (zpool) and Samsung 960 Pro (OS) ASUS Prime B650-PLUS WiFi ID-COOLING IS-40-XT Black - 47mm Height Low Profile CPU Cooler EVGA 750 BP, 80+ Bronze 750W PSU Rosewill 2U Server Chassis RSV-Z2900U BTF-LIGHTING WS2812B 2PCs 19in Individually Addressable 2GB Raspberry pi4 Geekworm KVM-A8 (kit for building a piKVM) 10G network card It's only a 65 watt TDP CPU! very easy to cool in a constrained (or SFF) build like this. A single half dollar sized CPU out performs all of my dual Xeon systems. Yes, I can't run a terabyte of RAM with this setup but I don't need to. My current systems are 128GB, I figure I only really really need 64GB with this CPU backing the system. Especially in single thread performance the new Ryzen system blows all my other systems away. This type of gain will be felt everywhere, especially in mysql queries and responsiveness. It still excels in multithread and even has a larger cache than my Xeons. It really wins for me on every level. And yes, RGB was a requirement. I never put RGB in a computer, not really my thing. But I figure this is a gaming PC at its core so for $13, why not. I can control them in linux but it adds a bunch of unnecessary packages, I like my base PVE to be as simple as possible. So default rainbow it is. lambo-2025-lq2.mp4 I haven't been necessarily doing it wrong all these years. Without the low TDP and high performance of the 9700X this build would be more challenging. These are recent developments. There's basically zero redundancy in this server. So, it also helps having a PVE cluster that has a bunch of reliable machines, to back up this consumer grade hardware. I can't wait to bring Lambo into production!3 points
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@CA3LE what are you running for a GPU in that rig? or AGPU...> My setup is pretty dated.. i just dont use the pc much anymore so I haven't really sunk any money into upgrades (especially the platform) in many years.. ASUS Prime X370-Pro AM4 ATX Motherboard AMD RYZEN 7 1700 8-Core Base Clock 3.0GHz OC @ 4.1 GHz NZXT KRAKEN X73 RGB 360MM AIO LIQUID COOLER W/LCD DISPLAY G.SKILL TridentZ RGB 32GB 288 Pin DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz XFX QICK 319 AMD Radeon RX 6800 16GB CORSAIR HXi Series HX1200i 1200W 80 PLUS PLATINUM Full Modular Thermaltake Core P5 ATX Open Frame Panoramic Viewing Tt LCS Certified Gaming Computer Case2 points
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Just the integrated GPU. It's a virtual machine server with no need for GPU. I only need graphics to get into the bios, set up the machine and remotely manage at the base machine level. If I ever have a need for GPU I run it on one of my local machines. This puppy is built for a very specific workload. Will be racked at the datacenter in a few days. Just waiting on one more network card...1 point
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Check this out, the Ryzen 7 9700X is built on a 4 nm production process using 8,315 million transistors. I don't feel like it's getting the love it deserves. The latest AMD chips are truly amazing.1 point
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Amazing and cool ! A Life time dream. Thanks for posting I was a fan of AMD, they are excellent and less expensive than Intel. The chinese already have 7nm chips. The 3B6600, for example, is claimed to perform at par with Intel 12th—and 13th-generation CPUs thanks to its new eight LA864 cores with a clock frequency of just 3 GHz My family PC for Gaming have I7 8700K recommeded at the time by Tom´s Hardware. I am not a gamer and my 2023, ASUS Notebook have Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9750H CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.59 GHz RAM: 16,0 GB Graphic card 8 GB SSD: 952GB Display 15.6" 240Hz 3ms G SYNC Pantone colors Windows 11 PORT 1 Gbps. USB adaptor 2,5Gbps My favourite F1 team was Williams https://www.formula1.com/en/information/williams-year-by-year.6wHlJglT3USpmIbETtAYzW Ferrari is beautiful and have long history Cheers1 point
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I cannot recall what the realistic expected speed one should be expecting on a ISP Tier of 2000/300 As usual I did not hear about this other then coming across this information searching online about latest Xfinity Gateways etc. I guess this upgrade was implemented Some time in January of 2025 in my area I think 90% of advertised speed was what would be expected or considered proper, now with the higher speeds ( The 90% I Think was back when speeds were like 1000/20 or so) the 10% would much greater amount lost IE 100/2 now it would be something like 200/30 or expected speed of 1800/270 IS this still valid with today's technology.1 point
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simple machines
Frank225 reacted to billybob12345 for a topic
i think it's called simple machines. has anyone used it?1 point -
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Its almost 2025. Show off your speed !
Frank225 reacted to DJFitness333 for a topic
TestMy.net Test ID : MQxIChSEV1 point -
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Hi All, As an Original Member I like to drop by every once in a while. I have not seen many topics I have anything to contribute to these days. I miss when this forum was very active. This would be a good topic for other members to do the same. Let us know you are still alive. Unless you have figured out how to post from the other side.1 point
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just testing...1,2,3. hmmm, are these the cylindroids we are looking for? OH, hello cholla.1 point
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You're not in the first 1000 members but you are an OG TMN member for sure. 1000th member to 10,000th is like a 6 month difference.1 point
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Im not quite an OG but close, Happy holidays !1 point
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Good to see the responses. I hoped there would be more. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to all.1 point
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Its almost 2025. Show off your speed !
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Hi Ca3le nice to meet ya. Just a sudden hunch to find some of my old registered forums since i had free time, plus my email was banned by yahoo quite a time ago with no clear reason, although manage to get it back, all previous emails was wipe clean. Thanks for the badge !1 point
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Wow! Your member number is right in between xs1 and cholla. You definitely deserve the Original Member badge. Welcome back. What kept you from signing in for over 20 years? I was just glancing over some of the first members. There are still a few registered in 2003 (the year the forums started here) who are still active. Pretty cool.1 point
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Hi Cholla.. just droppin by too.. my last visit was 2004...1 point
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Cholla, I completely agree! I also have a fair amount of "Open Source" programs, apps, scripts, etc. The open source community (without a doubt) keeps the big corporate software companies honest. At least somewhat. I firmly believe if the "Open Source" community DID NOT EXIST; All of little people would likely be paying Microsoft, Apple & even Google $2,000 - $5,000 a year - just for an OS (Operating System)! In addition, every program, app, etc would be pay before you run as well. There would likely be "some" trial-ware of course, but many consumers would be pay up front... JMHO, 0bWAN1 point
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I believe I & others posted about these websites many years ago. I have used these two for several softwares: giveawayoftheday & sharewareonsale The softwares are usually a full version with no updates. Some are for a limited time like 6 months or 1 year. A lot of them are lifetime but no updates. I have never found a virus or malware in any software I got from theses websites.1 point
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I'm like most PC users I have some payware & some freeware. The sites I posted are usually payware that is temporarily freeware with no updates. Some are for a limited time . A year or six months. Then they expire. Most are lifetime with no updates. I have some that I have had for years without an update & they still work for my needs.1 point
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I am always leery of free downloadable software, unless it is clearly "Open Source". Evan then, if I continue to use it more than a couple of weeks I will make a donation. I am not wealthy be any means so some donation(s) aren't much but Common sense indicates that every little bit helps. The flip side is of course MMI {Microsoft Malware, Inc.} I'll end that as I'm confident most people already know. Over the years I have found many deep discounts purchasing software. Many were of great value as well as an extraordinary buy. I quickly reviewed both of the above sites & unless I'm missing something these 100% legit! My personal experience buyi9ng MS Office for clients at such discounts has not been pleasant. Promise the world yet deliver nothing but chopped up licensing, partial or incomplete programs & generally consume much more time than original saving. BTW, I cannot put a dollar value on my frustration. I think today there is a plethora of really good inexpensive solutions available. In addition, anything touted as "COMPLETELY FREE", "NO STRINGS", ETC. should always be fully investigated & vetted before you take the plunge. Evan then I recommend D/L, install & run on a computer OTHER THAN your daily "production machine". Why gamble with any of your trustworthy devices? JMHO, be well, DSwinhart retired after 4+ decades in IT1 point
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Why Do My Results Differ From Speedtest.net / Ookla Speed Tests?
thedeejaycee reacted to CA3LE for a topic
The most common question that people ask us is why their results here differ from speedtest.net. I want to explain something that may help you understand why this is. According to the Ookla Wiki [updated link] the following is true about your tests taken at speedtest.net... The fastest 10% and slowest 30% of your results are DISCARDED The remaining data is averaged together to determine the final result Throwing away the fastest 10% and slowest 30% of the results in my opinion does not make for an accurate test. Isn't THAT the data that you're here to see? Also note this isn't only true for speedtest.net. Ookla is huge, most of the speed tests online run their software. Source: wiki.ookla.com Multithreading makes your connection look better Ookla speed tests are also multithreaded. Meaning that they open more than one connection to the host and combine the speeds. This often can mask congestion issues. For instance, imagine that you have a pipe along your route that's limiting you to 10 Mbps. If you open more than one connection through that pipe you'll be able to achieve a faster speed... but testing that way will not clue you in that there is actually a problem along the route. Remember, you shouldn't have to multithread your connection to pull your full speed. Multithreaded speed tests, like the majority out there, are designed to benefit the Internet provider not the consumer. They often display your maximum throughput not your throughput over the course of an entire upload or download. Omitting the worst portion of your test resulting in inflated scores that may make you feel warm and fuzzy but aren't going to help you see and resolve connection issues. Multithreading can show that you're able to max out your connection by combining the speed of concurrent connections but a great connection can max out without having to multithread. So, if you have to multithread your connection to get your full speed, you should be asking why that is. With TestMy.net it's instantly apparent if there is a congested route. Your speed here reflects the actual loading time of data within your browser... not the combined efforts of multiple threads being altered (dropping the top 10% and bottom 30% of the results) and added together, all through a plugin that isn't suited for the task. :: EDIT :: If you'd like to multithread with TMN, I offer that as well. Try the multithread speed test. TMN's multithread test gives you the option to select from an array of servers. Allowing you to test across multiple routes, to more than one server at a time. TestMy.net is the only Internet speed test with this ability. So THAT'S why your results differ. -- TestMy.net is a harder test to ace and a lot less forgiving than other speed tests. But isn't that what a benchmark should be? :: EDIT :: Another thing to consider is if you're running windows, particularly if it's older than Windows 7 you may need to tune your TCP stack to see your full speeds. Windows doesn't always come out of the box optimized for fast connections. Flash based speed tests fail to detect this problem. To make this change for free I recommend TCP Optimizer. This makes changing those settings very easy and nearly fool proof. Just open it, slide the bar over to your speed that you're supposed to have, check "modify all adapters" ...apply the settings and reboot. You should have faster speeds after your re-test if that was the problem. Here's an outside source talking about exactly this issue, I'll hunt down more examples. >> Download Speed Test - Something fishy? A few related topics :: Accuracy.. Slow upload, drastically different from other speed tests Resuts Vs. Actual Download speeds? TestMy.net shows different results than other speed tests TestMy v Ookla Difference Between Speed Test Sites? Satellite Service Testing Locking at around 14Mbps Questioning speedtest.net resolved with TestMy.net Outside Sources :: Internet providers caught inflating speed test results [myce.com] Use Testmy.net or else!! NO MORE speedtest.net posts will be allowed!!! by the Admin on [xplornetsucks.com] Accurate Speeds Or Speed Test Error? on [wildblueworld.com]1 point -
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