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meaning the ONT is not much more than an optical to wired converter, and in the telco switch the fiber runs into the concentrator/router/whatever they call it that controls your max speed/maybe provides the dhcp services/concentrates traffic onto their backbone/whatever they do to manage their network. it's basically a fiber optic network link just like you can set up at home with two fibers and a few black boxes.

electrons on a cablke are pretty damn close to light speed, radio is light speed. the speed of the individual bit is not what makes the speed of the connection, it's the speed with which you can discern individual bits, meaning how many bits per second can you send/receive. as i understand it the gain in optical versus standard transistors is that to bounce around small groups of or individual photons generates less heat, thereby wasting less of the applied power and allows for smaller components, making way for smaller circuits that will increase speed by shortening data paths and allowing a higher density of circuits in a given area. this is why cray computers were assembled by small framed women. they were the only ones small enough to reach inside the largish mainframe colums to make the connections because the goal was to keep the whole thing as small as possible to reduce the overall lengths of the data paths, shortening times for data transfer from circuit a to circuit b.

sounds like malware like cholla is saying. scan. thoroughly. with a lot of programs. your box done caught a bug.

hm. of course, use diferent colors (freqs) to carry more information just like on a normal connection, but where is the gains in using optical processing if you use slower light?

so as opposed to buying the progs and being able to work with them whenever i want i have to pay a monthly/daily/annual fee to ms to use them and can only use them when i log on to the site and dl the components that i want to use that day? if you're only gonna take one trip, ok, i can see the point, take a taxi. but if you plan on commuting, get a car.

the web based app is in some ways beneficial, as long as it is for stuff like a better webmailer, better online photo processing and the like. i just don't see it doing much good for something like a 'real' app like word or excel.

aol is already moving away from subscribers by letting everyone, not just the poor sods that pay for it visit their homepage. they are now financing it with advertising. if this means that you pay for it and still have to look at the ads on your homepage i don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me. since aol has gone in with time warner bankruptcy is unlikely. more likely is the cessation of internet access if enough people leave. but with the difficulties encountered by many when they try to leave, their customer retention is pretty good. not to mention the fact that if you have installed the aohell cd your pc is pretty much useless for any other connection because of the aol trojan™ technology that is installed.

this is a nice rig. if you're looking for something with a little more juice, that is. http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=00926620000

it may not even be centralized processing, but i don't want to have to dl my app off the web every time i use it. and i don't want to have to send my data to a website to work with it. then there is the problem of saving files, i would have to allow the site, whomever it is that is offering app x anyways, to access my local drive. or store the info online, making retrieval difficult in case of a net outage. call me old fashioned, but data that doesn't belong on the web shouldn't be put there. and imagine the senseless rise in traffic on the web with people sending back and forth graphics-heavy app windows and such. it's been tried a decade or so back too, the slim net computers sans hard drive that were supposed to run off the company server, allowing the company to save some money. sounds like a mainframe and terminal to me as well. why would i want to shell out a few grand for a nice pc and then be hampered by the speed of my connection to the web every time i want to run a certain app. bleah!

so you have 3 comps on 3 different connections. wouldn't it make more sense to pool the funds for the 3 connections and get one fast connection for all the comps?

guess you'll havbe to set up a linux box for that.

excuse me for asking a dumb question, but wouldn't it be easier to just log on with the same id from each comp? makes you seem less like some split personality whacko too.

web based apps will hopefully never go past webmailers and thiongs like that. if i have to work with a large document or a big spreadsheet, the last thing i want is to be dependant on my internet connection. i want to run the app locally, process all data locally.

first of all, if you're only 4 ft away, jack in using a cable, will give better speed, and try changhing the channel the wireless uses. it might be some neighbor using the same channel causing interference.

considering that bulldoghome os the homepage hoster for bulldogdsl, which offers connections with up to an 8 meg download, meaning that some lucky sod close to the telco switch actually gets the speed, i doubt you can dl fast enough for the test to say you're too fast. unless of course you use the back button after testing with your real speed. what package are you on, the one that has a monthly volume limit? that would explain the reluctance to waste download quota on proving yourself wrong.

does aim send client to client or does it buffer the file over the aim servers? in that case the 38kB would be your internet upload... :

no, the picture is probably not a fake. you downloaded about 38 meg of that file and then stopped. then you went back and restarted it. the good thing about windows/ie is that it sees that you already have 38 megs of that download in your temp files so it tells the server that the first 38 meg is already there. the simple routine to display speeds/times on the server takes it at face value and reguesstimates your current speed/time left as if you had dl'ed the first 38 meg in the first second. if you had cared to notice your speed from then on would have steadily dropped because your real speed combined with the burst would equal less apparent speed every time it was recalculated. granted, your test will be slowed down a little if you test here from the uk, but it should still show up pretty fast, and afaik one of the site members has a mirror in germany. iirc it's just- or something. testing off that one should give a more accurate result for you. have a nice day.

glancing over the forums 80 looks like a valid guesstimate. if you're also leaving out the 1 time pos(t)ers that disappear when their problem is solved.

nothing weird about it. isdn uses slightly more bandwidth on the line than pots, and dsl is well above that freq range. so they coexist happily.

damn. awesome comeback man.

if you have the phone on the line without proper filtration via either a standalone filter on the phone or a splitter in the house it can very well be the phone's fault. check your manuals how bt does it, or wnts it done, and see if you have it set up right.

and again. seems to me like you're dishonest.

um, to dispel not your illusion, but answer that was. :haha:

time is about you quiet.

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