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Thanks very much for your suggestions. I'll need to do a bit more homework fully understand what you have said but will then set to taking your advice.
 
You are correct in guessing that I have a Huawei router. Band switching should be fairly rapid I would have thought. That gives some hope that disruptions will not be a major issue.
 
I'll add to this if I get anywhere with it.

Ill run some more of the multithread tests, I know your tests are good and your results are what I used on many occasions to make my point in the past to Xfinity (Comcast) that the problem I was having was on their end not my equipment nor something to be expected or normal Since I have the ability to bring up past results and can show a history of multiple test results and when exactly the problem (Usually drop in Download speed) Started.
That was why I was concerned and posted on here as I was puzzled as to what had happened.
 
I will have to look at my result history to see how many tests I did prior to installing the XB8 Gateway as far as when I installed it I got it on Sunday 7-17-22 somewhere around 18:15 PDT I had some issues getting it provisioned the Customer service person was confused and did not speak very good English so it was hard to explain why I was calling so I think it took an hour or so to finally get it connected.
 
One thing I did do (By Accident to be honest) was update a couple of my programs that I use in iRacing while the Task manager was open on my second monitor and I seen it downloaded the file at 1.2 Gbps but it only took it about 10 seconds max I just got lucky to look at the monitor while it was downloading.

(2x100ft, 2x10ft) to Cat-8 blue shielded from Tinifiber (Hyperscale Data Center Cables) now Spectrum is my bitch 😂

it's working again! thank you so much! greetings from switzerland!

Welcome!
 
Yes, all of my tools are designed to work in any modern web browser. 
 
Just open testmy.net in your phone's browser and test away.

hey, i've been out of town. sorry for the late reply.
 
i'm guessing here (i don't pretend to understand satellite technology): i had a service tech at my house change the beam i was on. now it seems it doesn't matter whether i'm running single thread or multi thread. i'ts just slow all the way around.
 
hughesnet forums not helping me....they just tell me it's the "inherent limitations of the technology"...nothing i can do about it.
but average speeds measuring in kbps?  and what's up with the little random spikes in speed? are they doing that to skew test results so that when i go to customer service they can say "hey, but look, you're speeds aren't always slow?"
 
so, i've put in another service call. i'm going to ask the tech to change the beam back to what it was before. we'll see how that goes.
 
the hughes representative that replied to me on the forums said that both of the gateways that i can be switched to "experience issue frequently". end of discussion. nothing we can do to help.
 
either the technology itself is just really wonky or hughes is manipulating speeds and data.
 
 
 
 

@japlah I'm sorry I didn't see this when you posted it. I may have been programming.
 
@charles leclair thank you for finding this topic.
 
I think a random interval is a great idea for an automatic speed test option. I'll get that implemented and hit you back on this topic. I'll try to get to it sometime today or tomorrow. I'm going to think about it a little bit first.
 
- D

i would like to see the results also

Hello
 
I have been using testmy net many times namely to illustfate to my provider Virgin that they do not perform any where near their headline speeds offered across their contracts. Submitted 6 months data of regular auto test results but their response was
 
1 We cannot accept results form such as testmy.net. I advised them that if I were to lodge a breach of contract under Consumer legislation, that "defense" would not be accepted and they would have to show why. To my knowledge no provider be it internet services or the kit can ignore proffesional test results presented and based on an accepted industry method of measurement.
 
2 A curious reaction. Where the average had been at 40% of the headline rate it climed to just around 50%. Now that I am not checking it over the past few months the average has dropped to below 35% unless and until I persist with an auto test running in background. THat keeps the speed up. Without that it drops to 5 and less.
 
3 I  suspect Virgins veracity and would like to check' persistantly and at random ( rather than regularliy every 10 minute, 30minutes or say 2 hours,,,,)? 
 
How can that be done ?
 
Regards
 
John Perreur-Lloyd

Sent by TestMy.net member m1g
 
m1g's Speed Test Results
 
 
200 MB is a lot of data. It's taking you over 20 seconds to run those tests.
 
If your tests are completing in a couple of seconds, then an increase in size may help.
 
When running the tests using default options (e.g. go to https://testmy.net/download and select "Test My Download Speed") it's possible to exceed 200 MB of data in a test. As it runs through to determine the proper size, it's ramping your connection up for the final test... of 200 MB if needed. 
 
When I ran mine just now it starts at 96 kB, then 3.1 MB, then 75.5 MB and finally 200 MB. So in reality that was a 279 MB test. A faster connection might end up running over 300 MB. But it's logged as 200 MB because that was the final test size.
 
It does help to get the connection going before the test. But with your current speed you will probably end up with a smaller test size because the program knows how much it needs to see to make a determination.
 
The amount of time the test runs is more important than the amount of data. TestMy.net will serve you more data if it feels like it needs more time. But it's not going to use time or bandwidth that isn't necessary, unless you tell it to.
 
Your distance from Venezuela to Florida (3000 km) may play a role, depending on the connections between your ISP and the US.
 
Here's my result nearby
TestMy.net Test ID : CjBU5ycOa
 
And here's my connection testing against Singapore (over 14,000 km)
TestMy.net Test ID : u3QVZnr-z
 
A similar distance for me is actually testing on the same server in Florida. (3000 km) -- you and I have very similar ping to that server ~50ms.
 
TestMy.net Test ID : 0ypc_y5nf
 
My speed to Florida was actually a little faster it just wasn't as clean so it ended up slower. That was testing with only 85 MB but again remember there were tests preceding that one.
 
When I select 200 MB I get a lower result because it takes time to ramp up the connection. Time that's calculated in the final result. Where before that was done before the final test loads.
TestMy.net Test ID : OnAU3G9PT
 
I still hit 333 Mbps but all things considered it was slower.
 
And if I enable multithread to Florida and run the same SmarTest (we haven't called it that in a long time but that's its name) I get a much higher result. And the way it ran through the test sizes my connection used over 300 MB of data to produce the 200 MB final test.
 
TestMy.net Test ID : Qj0D50paR
In other words, I think the 200 MB max is sufficient for your connection and most out there. The program can scale the test sizes to any size it's just being restricted. In the future I plan to open that up.
 
 
Thank you, I'm happy you found us here. Unfortunately most don't. Please spread the word.

Sent by TestMy.net member m1g
 
m1g's Speed Test Results
 
 
200 MB is a lot of data. It's taking you over 20 seconds to run those tests.
 
If your tests are completing in a couple of seconds, then an increase in size may help.
 
When running the tests using default options (e.g. go to https://testmy.net/download and select "Test My Download Speed") it's possible to exceed 200 MB of data in a test. As it runs through to determine the proper size, it's ramping your connection up for the final test... of 200 MB if needed. 
 
When I ran mine just now it starts at 96 kB, then 3.1 MB, then 75.5 MB and finally 200 MB. So in reality that was a 279 MB test. A faster connection might end up running over 300 MB. But it's logged as 200 MB because that was the final test size.
 
It does help to get the connection going before the test. But with your current speed you will probably end up with a smaller test size because the program knows how much it needs to see to make a determination.
 
The amount of time the test runs is more important than the amount of data. TestMy.net will serve you more data if it feels like it needs more time. But it's not going to use time or bandwidth that isn't necessary, unless you tell it to.
 
Your distance from Venezuela to Florida (3000 km) may play a role, depending on the connections between your ISP and the US.
 
Here's my result nearby
TestMy.net Test ID : CjBU5ycOa
 
And here's my connection testing against Singapore (over 14,000 km)
TestMy.net Test ID : u3QVZnr-z
 
A similar distance for me is actually testing on the same server in Florida. (3000 km) -- you and I have very similar ping to that server ~50ms.
 
TestMy.net Test ID : 0ypc_y5nf
 
My speed to Florida was actually a little faster it just wasn't as clean so it ended up slower. That was testing with only 85 MB but again remember there were tests preceding that one.
 
When I select 200 MB I get a lower result because it takes time to ramp up the connection. Time that's calculated in the final result. Where before that was done before the final test loads.
TestMy.net Test ID : OnAU3G9PT
 
I still hit 333 Mbps but all things considered it was slower.
 
And if I enable multithread to Florida and run the same SmarTest (we haven't called it that in a long time but that's its name) I get a much higher result. And the way it ran through the test sizes my connection used over 300 MB of data to produce the 200 MB final test.
 
TestMy.net Test ID : Qj0D50paR
In other words, I think the 200 MB max is sufficient for your connection and most out there. The program can scale the test sizes to any size it's just being restricted. In the future I plan to open that up.
 
 
Thank you, I'm happy you found us here. Unfortunately most don't. Please spread the word.

Grateful for the time and dedication to the explanation of my isp, in this case my isp has a problem or it is limiting my broadband if you look before 04/26/2022 my average speed was 55mbps now it is in a drop of 3mbps which I have made claims and nothing, although it is good that they increase the bandwidth it is because in our country the isps limit us and we need a reliable page like yours to measure our providers since they are fed directly of bgp in the USA.

Both were run directly on my phone, however, I'd say it's more likely the browser's SSL overhead that's limiting the speed with browser based tests.  For example, I don't think the Ookla App uses SSL for its tests, never mind using a non-standard TCP port.  Indeed there's no way I could get Ookla's speed realistically with actual file downloads on my phone as they would face the same SSL bottleneck.  For example, any streaming service that offers downloads will obviously use SSL or other encryption overhead for their DRM. 
 
Basically I need a faster phone. 😃  I'll probably upgrade to the Samsung S21 FE when there's a good sale on one.  Not just for speed tests, but for even offloading video files from my phone and additional 5G bands in use that my current phone lacks.  I don't get why manufacturers still put USB2 ports on phones just to save a few cents on manufacturing.

While in an area with good 5G coverage on the 3.6GHz band, not in a moving vehicle for once, I tried a few speed tests.  It appears that ~370Mbps is about the max my Samsung A51 5G phone will get on TestMy and possibly any other browser based test.  During the test, the web browser appears unresponsive during the download test, unusually with the figure jumping straight to 100% once the speed hits about 350Mbps.  On the other hand, these are my fastest TestMy results to date on a phone:
 

 
Although the Ookla App got faster (734Mb down), I have recently noticed a design flaw with most midrange 5G phones, including mine - There is no practical way to make use of 5G speed above about 350Mbps even with tethering.  Most midrange phones have a USB2 port (USB2 maxes out about 350-380Mbps real world) and 802.11ac Wi-Fi that is not MIMO capable (SISO maxes about 300Mbps real world on an 80MHz channel), two major bottlenecks when tethering.  So for my next phone, I need to make sure it has USB3 or Wi-Fi 6 with MIMO...

My preference would be Cat 5e for general cable runs and Cat 6a for long cable runs where PoE or 10Gbps is required.  Both officially handle 1Gbps over a 100m run (328ft), but can usually handle up to 10Gbps over shorter runs. Cat 6a cable has thicker conductors than Cat 6 (without the 'a') and is rated to handle 10Gbps over a 100m run.
 
I did the mistake of buying Cat 6a cable for our home wiring, only to spend a few hours troubleshooting and recrimping RJ45 plugs wondering why I could not get all 8 conductors to link.  It turned out that the pack of "Cat 6 plugs" I bought where actually Cat 5 plugs falsely described as Cat 6 in the Amazon listing.  This turned out to be the case with many listings I looked at based on the user reviews (sort by Newest first).  Even when I got hold of proper Cat 6 plugs from a local trade supplier, getting the 8 colour coded wires aligned up is a lot more awkward than with Cat 5e as the thicker conductors are stiff.
 
Basically, unless you need 2.5Gbps or faster over very long cable runs, I would choose Cat 5e for the ease of installation and termination and the high risk of buying Cat 5 plugs / wall plates falsely described as Cat 6 capable.  In any case, Cat 5e will provide vastly improved throughput, latency and stability over any Wi-Fi or Homeplug based connection, particularly over longer indoor ranges. 

I almost always use Cat5e. I run 10 Gbps on Cat5e, all day every day — just short distances. And even for longer distances it will surprise you. In my testing using my existing Cat5e house wiring I was getting 5 Gbps on probably about 100 ft. Far from ideal but actually worked awesome. If you were told that 5 Gbps was all that was possible you'd never tell the difference. Not jittery or anything, just simply half the speed of ideal conditions... but still 5 Gbps.
 
In my experience Cat5e is also easier to work with if you're fitting your own connections.
 
In short, you probably don't actually need the extra shielding of Cat6. You're better off spending the extra money on better networking gear.   

I almost always use Cat5e. I run 10 Gbps on Cat5e, all day every day — just short distances. And even for longer distances it will surprise you. In my testing using my existing Cat5e house wiring I was getting 5 Gbps on probably about 100 ft. Far from ideal but actually worked awesome. If you were told that 5 Gbps was all that was possible you'd never tell the difference. Not jittery or anything, just simply half the speed of ideal conditions... but still 5 Gbps.
 
In my experience Cat5e is also easier to work with if you're fitting your own connections.
 
In short, you probably don't actually need the extra shielding of Cat6. You're better off spending the extra money on better networking gear.   

You should be in a Beatles cover band. 😁
 
 

1:  I actually lol'd on this. XD  This was the general consensus of many....MANY people and Verizon pretty much said F.U. to all its unhappy customers; @ one point even trying to disgustingly blame Samsung for " Not implementing multi-bands of 5G from the factory".  The thing that really put the nail in the coffin for me was i just bought a Samsung Note 8 not even a year prior, ($899) and just brought it in for an issue i was having with media loading... than they were like " We've got a deal for you!!" 🙄
 
2: NGL, never imagined you having anything less than the newest of new mobile tech.... Glad to see you can still surprise us after all these moons, D

Having heard the US 3G shutdown news from over here, I'm surprised they did not bother to create a workaround for unsupported smartphones.  It would just have been a matter of Verizon creating a simple App to handle voice calls and text messages via 4G data to replace the default dialler App, which even the oldest smartphones would be capable of (I remember using VoIP apps back in 2012).  Sure it would take a little getting used to using an App to dial out or for SMS, but better than losing voice/text services entirely until the user upgrades.  It's not like the App would need to be anything special either like WhatsApp to handle multimedia, video calling, etc.
 
With the budget network I'm with (48 Ireland), they only support 3G roaming at present, so I can imagine this will be an issue if I visit the USA after the 3G switch-off.  European law will soon require mobile operators to offer like-home connectivity when roaming throughout the EU, so it's likely they will offer 4G roaming even outside the EU when that happens.  While the 48 network only offers 4G in Ireland with its partner network Three, it occasionally switches to 5G:
 

Ooooh man, I'd be pissed too. I would have left them too and ever since I'd be looking for the class action suit that I'm sure is in the works. If it isn't, maybe it should be.
 
Verizon carried that phone with 5G branding, if they ended up not using the tech in favor of something else --- well, then that's okay too (technology changes) but they need to reimburse the customers who thought they were future proofing themselves. You can't sell it branded as 5G then later say, "oh, it's 5G but not the kind we use." -- "WTF! I bought it from YOU!"        "I think they might use those bands in Malaysia or Cambodia, maybe think of moving."
 
I had something similar but different recently happen with Verizon. I have a pixel 2, which I still love. Came out October 2017. So a little over 4 years old now. Google stopped updates for it last year. But still, overall it's a great device. Fast, responsive, does what you tell it to do... and Verizon will have 4G for a long time, so this device should remain compatible, right?
 
WRONG! As they retire the 3G CDMA network they're also killing all 4G non-VoLTE (Voice over LTE) devices December 31st 2022. They gave a warning but nothing else. Even $300 off would have made me happy, come on - SOMETHING! Basically, I got "you'll be kicked off the network unless you upgrade."
 
In my case, I needed to upgrade. Was planning one soon anyway (really shouldn't have gone this long in the business I'm in but it's such an awesome device!). But for most people, my Pixel 2 is still a perfectly good device - great even. They could allow it to continue to use data... but no.
 
I ended up with the S22 Ultra but am still walking around my house with my Pixel 2... haha.
 

 
All of the best devices are always FORCED to die eventually. More planned, forced obsolescence is all we can expect in the future.

Ooooh man, I'd be pissed too. I would have left them too and ever since I'd be looking for the class action suit that I'm sure is in the works. If it isn't, maybe it should be.
 
Verizon carried that phone with 5G branding, if they ended up not using the tech in favor of something else --- well, then that's okay too (technology changes) but they need to reimburse the customers who thought they were future proofing themselves. You can't sell it branded as 5G then later say, "oh, it's 5G but not the kind we use." -- "WTF! I bought it from YOU!"        "I think they might use those bands in Malaysia or Cambodia, maybe think of moving."
 
I had something similar but different recently happen with Verizon. I have a pixel 2, which I still love. Came out October 2017. So a little over 4 years old now. Google stopped updates for it last year. But still, overall it's a great device. Fast, responsive, does what you tell it to do... and Verizon will have 4G for a long time, so this device should remain compatible, right?
 
WRONG! As they retire the 3G CDMA network they're also killing all 4G non-VoLTE (Voice over LTE) devices December 31st 2022. They gave a warning but nothing else. Even $300 off would have made me happy, come on - SOMETHING! Basically, I got "you'll be kicked off the network unless you upgrade."
 
In my case, I needed to upgrade. Was planning one soon anyway (really shouldn't have gone this long in the business I'm in but it's such an awesome device!). But for most people, my Pixel 2 is still a perfectly good device - great even. They could allow it to continue to use data... but no.
 
I ended up with the S22 Ultra but am still walking around my house with my Pixel 2... haha.
 

 
All of the best devices are always FORCED to die eventually. More planned, forced obsolescence is all we can expect in the future.

DANG!
 
If that's what you get in "an area that's horribly overprovisioned." -- sign me up!
 
Sorry I'm slow to respond dude, been consumed with building a couple of ZFS servers on the backend. It's a process, that's just about complete.

DANG!
 
If that's what you get in "an area that's horribly overprovisioned." -- sign me up!
 
Sorry I'm slow to respond dude, been consumed with building a couple of ZFS servers on the backend. It's a process, that's just about complete.

Thank you Obeahman!
 
This is one of the best testimonials we've received in a long time. Feedback like this drives my development.
 
It's really nice to hear stories of TMN working for people. It's pretty crazy how under served so many people are and how most tests don't seem to notice. It's hard to convey to the majority of people why TMN is different so first hand testimonials are really helpful. There are major differences here that in my opinion render other tests useless when most needed. You witnessed it yourself.
 
I'm happy to hear that you found TestMy.net and that it's done what I originally set out to do, help you get what you're paying for. Hopefully in the future more people find us here. 
 
Much appreciated on this end as well.